2.0 allowed me to lie to him but had no dialogue for her and the Van Graff guards outside their building still attack after the quest is done. Shoulda read the comments first I guess. At least the ending should stay the same.
Do you have to complete Cass's Heartache by a Number quest for her to give you the hat? Her dialogue isn't giving me an option to get her hat. My bad, it was deeper in her 'dialogue tree'; if anyone else is confused about this, you have to tell her that you have more questions for her, and then the Van Graff bounty related choice will show up in there.
There should have been extra choices to resolve questlines with less body counts, and this very old but effective mod fixed what Obsidian wouldn't (they had time to "update" the game to 1.7.0.3 but not on gameplay fixes).
Or they're mistaking the Terrifying Presence perk and respective speech check as something with a permanent effect. All that perk does in this case, for those uncertain, is allow you to intimidate your way out of the conversation with Jean-Baptiste briefly, but it basically pauses the quest "Birds of a Feather." It doesn't talk him out of bringing him Cass nor does it advance anything, so you still have to come back ultimately and make the original binary choice to kill Cass or kill the Van Graffs, or leave the quest unfinished, without this mod.
Well, I got the slide where the Crimson Caravan and the Van Graff got punished by NCR and the Gun Runners attacks caravan in retalliation and Cass got the best ending
SauronStark, seconded. I get ending slides where Cass is alive, the NCR investigates and essentially prosecutes, and everything else is relative to the faction supported.
thats the beauty of modding, you dont have to download if it doesnt suit your perspective. I for one was finding this exact mod and is thankful that it's created for people like me to enjoy the game more.
can't you still choose to slaughter the van graffs? if anything this makes the role-playing better because you had an actual choice to work with the van-graffs but instead you decided to make them pay for their actions.
The funny thing is, you were able to use the exact same gimmick as the 1.0 release for Debt Collector so spare McCaffery. Right down the street. For the Garrets, who live right across the street from the Silver Rush.
@RealSHS88, exactly. The Terrifying Presence option allows you to back out of the conversation without committing anything, but it does not end the quest ultimately or allow you to move forward with that storyline.
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Just go back to jean without cass and lie.
Do you have to complete Cass's Heartache by a Number quest for her to give you the hat? Her dialogue isn't giving me an option to get her hat.My bad, it was deeper in her 'dialogue tree'; if anyone else is confused about this, you have to tell her that you have more questions for her, and then the Van Graff bounty related choice will show up in there.I'm using 1.0.
It just scares him and he exits conversation and the quest is still there