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  1. keylancer13
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    That mall in the first pic is one of the most well-made locations in the mod, I think.

    Kind of a shame it has to be in, y'know, this mod.
    1. Duskill
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      Nah we don't.
    2. keylancer13
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      ...'Nah we don't' what?
    3. sandtwister200
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      yeah, it looks great. I do hear that the remainder of the team are working on recreating the NCR questline and reboot the project, so that will be great.
    4. cordelionreaver
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      Yeah, it was nice location.  Too bad it led up to the vault.
    5. cordelionreaver
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      It would years to fix the NCR questline.  There is no salvaging it.  It needs a total rewrite. 
    6. PineappleSurprise
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      It probably wouldn't need a total rewrite (except for the last 2 hours or so where the story dives off a cliff), but would definitely need a lot of out of place content removed. The space station, along with the whole Enclave subplot, and the SHIELD Helicarrier Liberator are two big glaring examples.

      But yeah, it'd probably take as much work to fix as it did to make it in the first place, so it probably isn't happening.
    7. keylancer13
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      I mean, even the stuff early on is pretty WTF. Everything revolving around you getting captured and the NotCR sending a giant Vertibird fleet to rescue you is just as nonsense as the random Spaceclave side mission and the...whatever it is that happens after that. It doesn't just need a rewrite, the setup needs to be gutted and reworked too. (Change the NotCR to just the regular NCR and remove all that nonsense about Blackthorne deserting because Oliver is suddenly a comic book villain, remove the Legion and replace them with a different antagonist faction, maybe the Washington BoS from Fallout: Extreme, dial back the amount of tanks and Vertibirds the NCR has, make the space station bit the climax rather than a random irrelevant side mission and remove the Enclave, etc.)

      So yeah, at that point you're just making an entirely new story pretty much.
  2. PineappleSurprise
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    I don't know, but I think it's kind of sad that for every well-made, lore-friendly location in this mod, there's at least one ugly/poorly designed/lore-breaking location as well. If I remember correctly, you go to that mall about an hour or so after getting off of that *shudders* space station section. Tone whiplash doesn't even begin to describe it.

    I'm not saying that the Frontier's necessarily a bad mod, but it really could have used some creative oversight/quality control.
    1. cordelionreaver
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      The mod needed a editor.  Some one to slap the writers's hands away from the keyboard and ask them "WTF?"  But it was a project made by people who weren't friends; people who would of taken their ball and went home if you told them no.