Limited Vortex alpha release today, full release soon

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Hello everyone,

For over a year now we've been working on a mod manager to replace the ailing Nexus Mod Manager. The premise was simple, attempt to combine the simplicity of the Nexus Mod Manager with the advanced functionality of Mod Organizer and create something that is accessible to all types of modders. Back in May of 2017 we named this replacement "Vortex" and we aimed for a January 2018 release date.



With that in mind, the full release of Vortex is almost upon us. To give us a bit more time to polish things up (more on the web side than the application side) we're aiming for a full unlimited alpha release of Vortex on the week starting the 12th of February.

In the meantime, we would really like to do some limited testing of our software and do a small stress test of our brand new online API service. So today, Wednesday the 31st, we will be doing a very limited release of Vortex of around 1,000 users. I plan to spread out the release through the day to try and give a chance to people from different time zones, likely opening up downloads to 200 unique users every 3 hours or so from midday GMT until I go to bed.

After discussing this at length with Tannin and the web programmers we felt a limited release over the next couple of weeks would be the most beneficial for us, allowing us to test our all new API functionality in a controlled environment in an attempt to avert the issues of the past where we inadvertently managed to DDoS our own servers with NMM releases, while also providing additional feedback for Tannin on the software side.

Vortex will be offered up for download in our mod database as its own file page. It will be left visible until 200 unique downloads have been reached, then we'll hide it again for 3 hours before making it available to a further 200 unique downloads. And so on, and so forth.

For this limited release, you will only be able to use Vortex if you first login to the software and we will be limiting the number of users who can login to Vortex via our API so even if the Vortex installer gets shared elsewhere on the internet, we'll still only allow a limited number of users to access the online services Vortex provides. This limitation will not be in the full unlimited release in two weeks time and you will be able to use Vortex without first having to login in at that point.

You should never trust any download links provided for our software anywhere other than on Nexus Mods, so if you see Vortex on other sites I highly recommend you don't install it. Not just because you're potentially inconveniencing us (and the community) by overloading our services, but also because you cannot trust the file is safe to use.

We'll also know who is using the service without downloading it from Nexus Mods, as we can correlate our download information with API logins on the site. If you're logging in but the download stats show you haven't downloaded Vortex from Nexus Mods then you've been naughty!

With the full unlimited alpha release of Vortex less than two weeks away I please ask that you think of the community, and us, and only download Vortex if you're legitimately going to use it and test it extensively over the next two weeks. If you're not going to get around to doing that within two weeks, and you're not willing to troubleshoot potential issues both with the software and with your mod setups, then please just wait! If we can get 1,000 users who thoroughly use Vortex it will provide us with an invaluable source of feedback that will mean we can improve and iterate on the software, to the benefit of everyone, that much quicker. Thank you for your understanding.

Before you enter into this process please have a think about the type of user you are and whether being a first adopter of the software is right for you, and us.

Most importantly, this is alpha software. As such, our advice would be to try out Vortex, attempt to get it setup and working with your games, but do not switch over from your usual day-to-day modding setup straight away. If you're not comfortable with this or you're chomping at the bit to switch over completely, the software likely isn't ready for your use type and we do not recommend downloading Vortex until we do the full unlimited alpha release and you see the feedback coming from other users.

Vortex installs as a separate application on your computer. Any existing installations and setups you have of NMM and/or MO will not be affected by you installing and using Vortex. The only thing that will be affected is how NXM (download) links are handled on the site, e.g. what application starts and downloads files when you click the "Download with manager" button on the site.

Vortex includes an "Import from NMM" functionality that will attempt to copy your mod setup from NMM. This is non-destructive and will not impact your NMM setup. Because of the (now) archaic way that NMM handles files in the data folder, we recommend disabling any mods you have installed in NMM (or switching to an empty profile, that will in turn clear up any files NMM has placed in your game data folder) if your import to Vortex is successful. This is because Vortex and NMM both try to keep track of which files they've installed, and using multiple modding tools for the same game at the same time makes that difficult. If you need to revert back to NMM, you can simply disable Vortex and reapply your NMM profile to return your setup to how it was before.

As always, please backup your current modding setups in case the worst happens. Ensure you create a safe copy of your mod installations somewhere else so that you can restore from this backup in case of a problem.

Even though the file page has been added to Skyrim Special Edition Nexus, the software currently supports 28 different games and we are looking for as much feedback on how Vortex works with all of these games. The games are:

  • Breaking Wheel
  • Dark Souls
  • Dark Souls 2
  • Dragon Age
  • Dragone Age 2
  • Dragon's Dogma
  • Factorio
  • Fallout 3
  • Fallout 4 VR
  • Fallout 4
  • Fallout: New Vegas
  • Legend of Grimrock
  • Morrowind
  • No Man's Sky
  • Oblivion
  • The Sims 3
  • The Sims 4
  • Skyrim
  • Skyrim Special Edition
  • Starbound
  • State of Decay
  • The Elder Scrolls Online
  • War Thunder
  • The Witcher 2
  • The Witcher 3
  • World of Tanks
  • X-COM 2
  • X: Rebirth

Vortex contains a feedback and bug reporting system built in to the software. If you experience issues while using the software please report them using these methods, providing detailed information about what you were doing at the time the problem occured. We'll be opening up a feedback forum shortly where you can discuss the software in detail.

We appreciate the patience most of you have shown over the past 18 months and hope we can hit the ground running with our official alpha release of Vortex in a couple of week's time. We're extremely happy with how the software has shaped up and its potential for the future, and we hope once you get to use it properly, you will be too.

When Vortex is available for download during this limited test run, it will be found on this page. We have also opened a new Vortex forum for users to discuss the software.

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  1. ElkkuEEN
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    Finally, NMM was so bad anyway...
    1. sopmac45
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      Ok, now that you are saying that, can you please point out why it was so bad as you said ? Let us know please !

      You are new to Nexus ( only one posts ) and your first is to express that NMM was so bad. Go ahead and let us know please why NMM, in your opinion, was so bad. Waiting.
    2. griskald
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      I mean, the person joined in 2016, they could just be a lurker.
    3. Rovlad84
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      NMM has ancient UI for one thing, though it's still way more user friendly than MO/Bash.
    4. Ethreon
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      Profile switching is not entirely functional.
      Installing and uninstalling mods doesn't always add all the files, ending with users having to manually install and uninstall, defeating one of the main roles of a mod manager
      Invariable (for me) the UI mods either don't install at all, or they crash the whole thing. It's even funny when it happens during a download as I can simply say I don't want to close NMM, unlike crashes not happening during a download which just boot me out of NMM.

      There's a host of bugs you can easily find on the forums, and not all of them are user error. It needs a replacer, and the devs are the first ones to tell you that. It works, and I use it, but those are very common issues a lot of people seem to face.
    5. DarkDominion
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      @Ethreon: I always like your comments and I get what you are saying, but
      Installing and uninstalling mods doesn't always add all the files, ending with users having to manually install and uninstall, defeating one of the main roles of a mod manager
      Invariable (for me) the UI mods either don't install at all, or they crash the whole thing. It's even funny when it happens during a download as I can simply say I don't want to close NMM, unlike crashes not happening during a download which just boot me out of NMM.
      This is not broken, it’s just not working for some users for reasons unknown.
      I do agree that NMM needs to be replaced because the community wants more out of a mod manager and they want a stable mod manager which will work for all of us, not just some ( give or take a few who can’t read descriptions and are otherwise just plain idiots )
    6. bigd4450
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      Strangely though, I have downloaded thousands of mods and never had any of the problems you have mentioned, push a button and it worked. If I had wanted all the bells and whistles I would have gone to MO. I just wanted something that simply worked as advertised and in my case NMM did.
    7. Ethreon
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      I'm glad it works for you and you think that means the issues doesn't exist.

      -- the uninstall issue is spread enough to be more than just user error. If a (basic) feature doesn't work even for part of the software users then said feature is most likely broken to some degree. And it can't really be pinned on user error as it's just a button press.
    8. bigd4450
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      Well your right, I can only speak for myself and the countless others that have stated they had no problems with NMM and the old Nexus. And I am sorry that all of the problems of Nexus seemed to have heaped upon you as I've never had any of your stated issues, and I'm one of those people that if something involves pushing more than one button I have to call my grandkids.
      Also, using your logic. (sorry, I dont know how you quote someone on here so I will paraphraise.) "if a basic feature doesnt work for even part of the users". If a basic program doesnt work, for even part of the users, it shouldnt be implemented. Just saying.
    9. cww1988
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      Well I am sorry bigd4450. I have had problems with NMM like bulk mod install not working and freezing. Other than that it works great. I defiantly feel your pain though. I help some older people who do not understand these type of things a lot. Well I can say if you ever need help I am sure the community would be more than happy to help you. But the good news is they said you can use a simple or complex version of it. Which means you might be able to use it a lot easier than you think. Hope they meet yours needs as well. Hope the best for you.
  2. TheDespicableMind
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    I see there is a downloads folder and mods folder, so the same files are in two places thus taking up more precious SSD space
    Do we need to keep the files inside the downloads folder or...?

    PS Thank you for Vortex, I love it!
  3. Sesheenku
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    About Vortex... is this a virtual install only? In other words, do mods never install to the actual Skyrim folder?

    I'm highly concerned because I'm a mod user that likes to tweak mods to my taste. This often means installing them and editing/replacing installed files as needed which I don't see being possible with a fully virtual install?

    If that's the case then Vortex can never serve me as well as NMM. As I speak my Skyrim contains numerous mods that have to be installed and then customized by moving/replacing/editing files that are installed in the folder.

    So what's the deal here?



    1. sopmac45
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      If you mean that you customize your downloaded mods and create you own custom mods, that is not a problem because I did also create my own custom mods and I added them to my load order in Vortex and everything is running as it should.

      Regarding moving mods in your load order, if you download install / enable your mods following a proper load order, I doubt that you would have to move several of them but some and if so, you can drag/drop a mod but it will ask you to implement the rule and this is a great difference between Vortex and NMM.

      Thru Vortex, we are not moving records via CK or xEdit to resolve mod conflicts as we had to do it with NMM; in Vortex we are just placing a mod under or above depending which one you want to take precedent or depending ( which it is more important to me ) on what the mod author suggested in his/her description page about load order and compatibility so conflicts are resolved.
    2. Ethreon
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      "Thru Vortex, we are not moving records via CK or xEdit to resolve mod conflicts as we had to do it with NMM"

      Oh man, it's gonna be fun watching people that will believe this to be true.
  4. adamscd123
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    While it certainly has its flaws and issues, NMM is not as bad as some people have been making it out to be. However, I am looking forward to a new program for mod management.
    1. Belfaborac
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      Very much agreed. I've used NMM since it first appeared, with fairly large mod lists, and have had zero *serious* issues.

      Whenever someone drops in here crying and ranting like a moron I automatically think "user error".
    2. peteredw
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      Lol,Belfaborac some people can not read directions for load order. The only time I had an issue with Skyrim was a memory issue, it was nothing to do with my Mods.
  5. Belfaborac
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    Surely it has to be soon soon?
    1. Galschar
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      Well I'm sure they are still working on bugs, changing things, etc. Give them some time
      And remember it's still in Alpha State. So it won't be perfect yet
    2. Belfaborac
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      I don't need perfection, I just want my new toy! Gimme, gimme!
    3. peteredw
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      Nothing ever will be perfect for some people, no matter how good something is a problem will come up for someone. It is not that there may be issues with the thing they are complaining about, but that they just gripe about the silliest thing because they do not ask questions whenever they are stuck.

      Just like it stating launch date the week of the 12th of the month, if it is not launched on that date, complaints start to circle about it.
  6. mikethorgeo
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    Depending on how each player's setup involves mods installed manually and/or outside of NMM, messing with the profiles might be a big no-no. Especially if some of the mods not installed through NMM overwrite one or more files used by other mods.
  7. youfearm3
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    this is sad. :(
    1. syakamaru
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      What's sad about getting a better mod manager this week?
    2. UDeletionQuality
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      I think he refers to the waiting time.
    3. Battlestar1965
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      ....or he is sad about the possibility not to get the "better" mod manager at all he was hoping for...
    4. UDeletionQuality
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      Maybe, but we don't know. I hope is better than NMM.
  8. haguerepairguy
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    The suspense is killing me here!
  9. MysteriousGuy
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    Is it "soon" yet?
  10. sachaw
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    Congratulations @Tannin42 on your 999'th post!
    Also, keep up the amazing work!
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