Fallout 4 Beta Update and DLC, Creation Kit News

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Hey everyone! Really quick news update this time. It’s been busy around here lately and seems things are no different at Bethesda!

For those of you who choose to opt-in, a new Fallout 4 Beta Update has been released. A few new features and an extensive list of fixes are included. The full release notes and further info can be found in the official announcement: http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1592402-14-beta-update/

Over the weekend, details about the first 3 upcoming add-ons were released. I’m especially excited about “Far Harbor”. Interestingly, and similar to the days before Skyrim’s major DLC releases, Bethesda has opened recruitment for participation with beta testing the upcoming content. Though I imagine relatively few will be chosen to participate, registration is quick, simple and who knows, you may get selected!

In addition, Bethesda has announced plans to expand their Fallout 4 content offerings even further. More DLC as well as free feature updates throughout the year, including a complete overhaul of the “survival” aspects of the game were mentioned. However, to reflect the additional content they are now planning, the price of the season pass (which includes all upcoming DLC) will increase from $30 to $50. Thankfully though, the lower price will remain for a short time, so it may be worth purchasing soon before the increase. The full announcement can be found at the official Bethesda site: https://bethesda.net/#en/events/game/fallout-4-add-ons-automatron-wasteland-workshop-far-harbor-and-more/2016/02/16/77

Lastly, following Todd Howard’s recent keynote at this year’s D.I.C.E. summit, the folks at Game Informer were able to chat with him about these announcements, console modding, future titles, and other topics. This includes the revelation that the Fallout 4 Creation Kit is due to release between DLCs  1 and 2, hopefully sometime in April! Head over to Game Informer for the full scoop: http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2016/02/22/todd-howard-discusses-fallout-4-dlc-mods-amp-survival-mode.aspx

PC Gamer has also covered this story in case the Game Informer article is region-locked in your area: http://www.pcgamer.com/fallout-4-modding-tools-arriving-april/

Also, for those of you interested in seeing the full D.I.C.E. keynote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vw1HbaJNbf8 [Edit: Link Updated]

That’s it for now. Enjoy your day!

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  1. sp0ckrates
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    So why has there been no new news posted, here since February?
  2. BTVagrant
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    Gotta love that delayed GECK...
    1. sp0ckrates
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      A beta version of it is now released:

      https://community.bethesda.net/thread/7221
  3. 17671
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    I'm really disappointed in how long it is taking them to release the CK. Not sure whether or not I'll buy the DLCs at this point. I'm probably just disappointed with how FO4 has turned out, where I'm still going back to play FONV.
    1. sp0ckrates
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      A beta version of the CK was released, but only to the first 1,000 or so who opted in:

      https://community.bethesda.net/thread/7221
  4. T00LK1D
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    Because they are not releasing the CK until April


     
    Heh, 21st of April aaaaaaand still no CK.
     
    huehuehue, I think it's obvious that the CK will come together with the full Survival update at this point. And seeing as Bethesda said, that the update can still take up to an entire month to be finished with this whole beta thing... Oh, what a surprise, Far Harbor comes out next month. What a coincidence.
  5. oldtrk
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    I got my game back in November and still can not get it to work. Any ideas?
    It goes to the first screen, I hit play, and it crashes to the desk top every time. I get an error message that Windows is going to look into it. Steam of course will not help, big surprise there.
    I am using windows 10, as far as I know, that should not be an issue. Computer meets or exceeds.
    Any ideas?
    1. danmdl
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      I had W10 and was sick of all that trouble with games. Paid for Windows 7 installation. everything is so smooth. no problems at all
    2. Brunoflip94
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      Have win10 and never had problems. If you upgraded from 7 or 8, you better do a clean install of windows 10, because if not all the custom stuff you did to your old windows will affect your new windows in a lot of bad ways. I have W10 with a i7ULV and gt740M (laptop, not very good) and run fallout 4 without a problem.

      For those who rather pay for something easy to solve, well, ur dumb
    3. Thorsten021978
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      Did you instal some mods?
    4. FetiqeZamamee
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      I've actually got about 58 mods installed to my Fallout 4 on windows 10 and I haven't had an issue with it. Though I have heard that it seems to be hit and miss with some people. But then again I did do a clean install from Windows 8 straight to Windows 10 and it wiped everything but my documents from the Windows 8 but that's normal for most upgrades so I had a clean and crisp HD so it was able to install without any issues, the only time I've had issues with it was with NVIDIA's update they released in Jan so I had to go back to the update they released the day OF Fallout 4's release and then I've never had an issue so far, it was the same with SWTOR when it came to that update. So the only times I've truly had issues with Fallout 4 was when NVIDIA decided to do their little updates. Sorry to hear you're having issues though, mate.
    5. usernameirrelevant
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      When it comes up with the screen of; Play, Options, Support, Exit. Click options and there will be two check boxes in the bottom left corner check both. I think I had the same problem as you and this fixed it, but I'm running on windows 8. You might also have to mess with a few more settings on that page depending on how powerful your computer is. And if that doesn't work try Bethesda.net in their help section
    6. WashableClub96
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      I had the same issue on Windows 8 for about a week. Turns out that my drivers were not up to date (AMD GPU). Double check your drivers and try again.
    7. jessebreo1983
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      i have a msi apache pro ge72 with nvidia gtx 960m and I7 windows 10 it is a laptop and runs fine are you using intel hd graphics card if you are the game will not run with that you need to upgrade
  6. Mazz123
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    The reason why they're holding back on the GECK is because if they released it right now no PC players would bother to buy the 1st or 2nd DLCs because they are easily copied and made into mods. They're dicking us around because they're afraid of losing money.
    1. ShadowPhase
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      Exactly. Also, a dog that is kept hungry will jump through more hoops than one that isn't.
      I hear that Bethesda is going to start providing a jar of Vaseline and ankle hand grips with every game... I can just see the lines backing up to them now.
    2. Eruadur
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      Correct me if I'm wrong but the G.E.C.K. for FO3 and NV was also released before the DLC's were released.
      To my knowledge nothing was copied out of those DLC's because the G.E.C.K. was released beforehand....

      Don't know what you are on about, but what I think you are stating is just silly...
    3. d00m2009
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      @Eruadur
      This is a really broad issue that stems down to how milking gamers and treating them like s*** is a legitimate business tactic.

      Those DLC are actually concepts that could've easily been done by modders with the G.E.C.K. The build your own robot concept was already done by a modder right here on the nexus! Building your own robots in settlements for defense purposes!

      Bethesda is simply refining that idea, sure they may have already planned to do so (maybe) but no one is going to pay for a DLC that is already accessible for free through modding.
      Release the modding tools and no doubt before that DLC is released (or announced) someone would've already made a mod where you can build robot companions alongside new version of robots (robobrain, fisto is my fav tho).

      Mods that involve capturing creatures aren't original either, that's been done to death in Fallout 3 and NV.

      If anything Bethesda is trying to squeeze every last dollar they can out of their fanbase because they can, because they're immune to the people who say, what the f*** are you doing Bethesda?
      That comes back to the root problem with companies taking advantage of their fanbases. Bungie with Destiny ("Pay for the game twice, and then after two year we will release it again so you have to pay a third time, or don't we don't care", Activision with releasing the same formula every time which works, Ubisoft with games that have a major part of their content cut for future DLC, Microsoft with Xbox Live subscriptions and poor service, Sony with Playstation with PS Plus stooping to the level of MS because why compete with your competition when you can simply stoop to their level and still make sales?
      I can go on for years, bottom line:

      TLR - THEY WANT YOUR MONEY AND WILL DO ANYTHING TO GET IT, THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT YOU
    4. Eruadur
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      @d00m2009
      Seriously?

      Uhm, stop playing games if you don't like the gaming business? ffs...
      Just stop whining about it in here please ?

    5. ValdrFireBorn
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      If you guys really think Bethesda can't create content more enjoyable, polished and in-depth with these concepts than 90 % of modders, you have no place playing their games. With or without GECK, nobody creates stuff possessing more depth. Skyrim's DLC added house building, which itself was already a mod. But guess what? Bethesda's version was better. Dawnguard as well, simply an amazing DLC that shows Bethesda's capabilities. The only thing that would be better than a good ol' fashioned Bethesda DLC would be DLC from Obsidian.
    6. berdie1
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      You have got to be kidding me.
      1. Of course Bethesda needs to make money. It is a company. It needs to pay all the people who make the games, and all their other employees, and make a profit on top of that. Otherwise it goes out of business and you will not get any more games from them.
      2. Bethesda is remarkably friendly to modders. They will even give us the GECK for free. The alternatives are no mods, or mods that are extremely limited in what they can add to the game.
      3. We have to wait for the GECK, because Bethesda makes changes to it before they release it. They surely do not bother with that before the game itself is released because they are concentrating on the game itself. In the meantime modders are doing really impressive things without it. I for one enjoy observing the difference in mods before and after the creation tools are released; some modders probably enjoy figuring out just how much they can do even with out the GECK.
      4. With so many mods out there, Bethesda could just not bother making DLC for people like you who don't seem to appreciate their efforts. But they do make them, and of course they need to be paid for them, see point #1 above.

      Modders make their mods as a creative outlet and a labor of love. Bethesda's employees may love their work, but it is their work. They need to be paid. If you think that means that you are being treated badly, I don't know what to tell you. You are having a first world problem that is created in your own head and is easily solved by not playing Bethesda games at all.
    7. ESJonnez
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      A company wants to make money? Who would have known?
    8. kaobserver
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      No doubt bunch of gd cry babies...
    9. shyahone
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      the people who make games and write stories for one. I dont think money desire directly leads to great creations.
    10. aquilacozorav
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      if bethesda is pretty honest of supporting comunity and modder, they should release geck in time of release. xcom 2 mod kit ship with the game on release, and the firaxis also include what esentially the tool they have for making the game itself.

      sorry, but fallout 4 dlc in theory is not better than what modder could ussually do. they lies of patch some bug that eventually force the community to make unofficial patch instead. again a phenomena that sadly unique to videogame industries.

    11. Dukoth
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      um, nope

      majority of mods require DLC to function as they use assets or functions from that dlc
    12. Eruadur
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      @aquilacozorav
      "sorry, but fallout 4 dlc in theory is not better than what modder could usually do"

      Oh yeah, you are totally right !! Of course !!!

      Uhm... Fallout 4 DLC's haven't been released yet, smarty pants.
      How can it not be better than what the community of modders can come up with ?
      Oh ye of little faith !!

      Why the frog are people so negative about Bethesda... Is it the whole "entitlement era" someone talked about earlier?
      Seriously, some of you need to have some respect for the devs of this game.
      All this whining and nagging and crying.....
      Play the game and be happy for all that they have given you: you have been served well for what you have payed for.
      Or stop playing their games all together... Just please stop nagging ?

      Thank you
    13. Beantins
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      Sad little keyboard warriors moaning about Bethesda making money instead of giving away their efforts for nothing.

      Lets be honest here, Bethesda have spoiled us with some great games over the years. Now we just want more and more. For hours played v money I've spent, Bethesda win hands down for me.

      They have raised our expectations so high that some people are always going to be disappointed. They massively over promised on Oblivion and couldn't deliver the organic full 'Lives' of the NPCs since then we have just been waiting for them to get there - to the perfect game. They may never achieve it but they get way more right than they get wrong time and time again.

      The key word is spoiled - it's fair enough to be disappointed with certain features, but I remember in the days before the internet as we know it today when you just got the game and that was it, There would be the odd expansion pack but not for most games. No modding, no DLC. You just accepted it as it was good or bad. Now developers release more content after a few months of refining. This is stuff that they didn't get time to implement btw, we would never be seeing this if it wasn't being released.

      But please carry on moaning, I'm sure its more fun than playing the actual game...
    14. MCMalkemus
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      I'd have to agree with you. Good points.
    15. MCMalkemus
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      I don't agree. Bethesda's job is to create the basis of the game. Modders come in after the hard work is done, and tweak things to their liking. This whole pipeline works well in my opinion.
    16. Woudangst
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      Jeez finally. Thanks berdie. I was actually out to say the same thing.
    17. firstwolf
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      I really don't want to agree but he has a point. Take skyrim's Frostfall or Falskarr for example. I will state that Bethesda's DLC quests are usually somewhat unique.
    18. dwemer101
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      All Zenimax investors want is more money (Donald trumps brother is a member on the Board of Directors at Zenimax,just saying). Bethesda will make close to $1. 5 to $2 billion in gross sales when its all said and done. As much as we fans/customers are appreciating their games by buying it, They need to appreciate the fans also, for buying Fallout 4. This game is Breaking sales records. GTA V costed about $250 million to make. I doubt Fallout 4 costed as much money to make, even so the take home for bethesda and all its investors is massive. 100 of millions, numbers that will be high for years as more people get new consoles etc. There is no reason for bethesda to charge a decent amount of money for dlc. With the amount of money they are making it is imoral, to ask that from people who have already paid once($70). Any dlc should be free because Bethesda already made a f&*@ ton from sales. Unfortunately they want more money and see more money, if they can get enough people to pay for the seasons pass thats even more 100 of millions, thats there goal.
      And anyone who says people hate on Bethesda for fun, its mostly because their starting to take advantage of their loyal fans, the fans/customers who have made fallout ascend to being one of biggest video franchises ever.

      example for dlc: If a company released a game and everyone in the world bought it, they would have so much money they don't need to charge for dlc. But they would, probably a seasons pass, an attempt to make close to double off of anyone willing and to increase game value for years.
      Its getting really slippery out here nowadays...
    19. logan1710
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      Bethesda create a DLC called Mothership Zeta ---> no one likes it.
      Modders make a mod called Mothership Zeta Crew, community create Addons and Expansion to that mod ---> The DLC is worthy to being bought.

      This is only an example.

      Bethesda never created a complete game... they make a good base, the truly complete game is the one made by the gamers.
  7. nexusguy
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    I really liked the new system, but, like others said, there are too many wasted opportunities, that, i hope, the DLC's will fix. One thing i dont understand is the ungrateful fell people has toward this game, it is amazing and(my opinion) the MAIN quest of fallout 4 is more interesting than the main quest for NV, really i never had interest in finishing the main quest, the DLC's though were awesome and really good. I just didn't like the mojave wasteland too much, i prefer more urban locations like the Capital or the Commonwealth, if they had done what they were planing to do with recreating the WHOLE city of Las Vegas, THEN i would have liked the map.I just feel that people should be more fair when critizing the game, sure it has flaws, but Bethesda has never been so active before, i mean they are constantly releasing patches and adding more content, the only thing that needs to be done though is to release the GECK so people can "Fix" what they want. I'm really excited to see what future content are going to be realesed for this game, both by modders and devs
  8. Ethreon
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    Spoiler:  
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    Value comment right here. </sarcasm>
  9. JuJooGuppy
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    Discussing the price of the game and whether it was worth its price, I look at it like this:

    Personally I got it for, $45 I believe, but lets assume you got it for $60. 

    In my first, unmodded playthrough, I was able to get in over 7 days of game time, so lets round to 150 hours. Now lets say that, I play games longer than most players, and cut that in half to 75 hrs.  So, for $60, I got 75 hrs of entertainment.

    That same $60 could have got me 5 movie tickets at the local theatre, during matinee hours ($12, I think it may be $14 now..). Which would be ~10 hrs of entertainment at the same price, and I cannot simply re-use said tickets when I want..
    It could get me a lot of other games on the market, that are quite fun.. but most of them take 20 hrs or less to play through honestly. Multiplayer obviously helps there.
    I could use it to get a cheap seat to a sporting event, but thats only a few hours entertainment..
     
    Anyway, list goes on, my point being, is that even with all its flaws compared to its previous Bethesda titles, its still quite good and worth the money. Itd be different if it was 100 hrs of really bad gameplay and I wasnt enjoying it, but that isnt the case, it is still quite fun. They just had a lot of missed opportunities that the DLC and modders will have to address..




    Also, on the note of DLC.. I prefer expansion pack size DLC honestly. I hate when I see companies charge $5 for a few items. The Old Republic is an excellent example.. it cost 2000 "cartel coins (Purchased currency)" to buy a single-use black/black armor dye. The dye can only be applied to one armor, and you cannot pull it back off the armor to use later. 2000 coins cost $20 to buy. AND PEOPLE BUY THEM. Some people even buy them to resell for in-game credits. Thats absolutely insane, and its crazy that people don't cuss them out over it. $20 for any single digital item is absurd to begin with, but for a single use dye that gets consumed... jeez.
    1. CrimsonSerpent
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      Nobody gives a s***
  10. Phion
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    Nobody bought Fallout 4 for Fallout 4. They buy these shitty games because of the modding community to turn a turd into amazing rainbows. Delaying it so much is just stupid. 0 story, 0 RPG value, 0 replay value (besides the same grind-quests that make no sense), thoughtless perk system. 0/10
    1. killer005
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      Man, that´s your case, I bought F4 and I did not want to instal any mod before i finish the main quest. And you know what? For me, the best game in loong time. Yeah, have some bugs, and little things, but the game is fking art, the world, the characters, everything!
    2. Alkohol
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      I agree with the OP. Bethesda games are unplayable unmodded.
    3. Muffindog
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      Unplayable? .. wow you guys are ungrateful, little, spoiled brats.
    4. Edg3k
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      I played the entire game through once unmodded, some textures added but other then that unmodded, then again, twice modded. Base game still stands. Just nice to have the extras. I buy the games not for the mods but for the game, then the mods add to it long after Bethesdas moved on. Skyrim the same. Fallout 4 isnt there best, has some great ideas, but no where near as immersive as the older games. Still love it and looking forward to seeing what the modders more so then the DLC bring to the game.
    5. OriginOFPain
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      Muffindog, paying $60 dollars for a game and expecting $60 worth of content is NOT being a spoiled brat. Bethesda executives are the ones who are ungrateful for the business we choose to conduct with them.
    6. xJadeWolfx
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      I have no idea how you didn't get $60 worth of content. *Every* location has a story to tell just like Skyrim did. And that's not even including the story of the main questline. Grind quests are also nothing new. They did them in Skyrim, which was also a great game on it's own, again because every. single. location had a story to tell.
    7. djrxmx
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      Love it. Ungrateful little spoiled brats. Well said. I reflected on this a while back, about three or so weeks after launch. Yes, it is a buggy, steaming pile of need-to-be-patched AND modded. But to say it's not worth 60 dollars is sheer stupidity. The work Bethesda put into creating such an epic playpen world is substantially remarkable. This is the best Bethesda 3D world to date, with an almost unbelievable amount of exploring to embark on--that vanilla nugget alone is worth the price of admission. How much content is in this rendition of Boston is staggering. If you are too blind to see that, I suggest you get a gaming reality check.
    8. 777777777
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      phion n co:thatll be why you are in a fallout forum,trolling your tiny little minds out.bet it makes you damp eh?.pmsl,,theres some sad humans on this planet,

      go back to hiding behind your hacks in the online games.
      yes i know thats what you do
    9. ADragonthorn
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      I bought Fallout 4 because I have enjoyed all of Fallout even the line jumping game where you switch between Deathclaw and Human. As for the value of the game the thing to look at is the playable story element. If you are just looking at the playability of it then you might as well just play an online FtP FPS because that is what you are looking for.
    10. Vicalliose
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      I feel like the content is there, but I'm so bored by the dialogue, the awful story setup, and the awful ending that I find myself feeling like it isn't actually there at all. The ending cutscene just left me with an "oh, it's over?" reaction the first time and the second time I just left the room to grab a slice of pizza. I honestly liked Fallout 3's story better than this.

      I still don't understand why everyone and their grandma just wants to blow up a place that grows clean pre-war vegetables and battle apes, you could just shut the synth production facility off and be done with it.

      The questionable morality of the creation of synths, the purpose of synth life beyond utility, and the questionable ethics of the railroad wanting to prevent further synth life being created... None of that really gets explored much or at all. It's a shame they kill G7-81 off because I really wanted to see how her character would handle the freedom of her "people" after the destruction of the institute. It feels like a seriously missed opportunity. Also let's not forget the missing reformation of the Brotherhood quest.

      The game just feels really shallow to me. I was honestly more excited about the Ranger armor being released than I was for the game itself... And yet I bought the game twice and also bought the DLC. I still have a lot of love for the universe and what people outside of bethesda can do with it, and yeah Nick valentine IS the best part about the game, so having a DLC devoted to his detective agency is probably the best move they could make to appeal to me. Fingers crossed it doesn't suck.

      TLDR
      I have a very love/hate relationship with this franchise.
    11. OriginOFPain
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      xJadeWolfx, I simply disagree that "every location has a story to tell." It's better than it was in Skyrim, however. Every cave/dungeon in that game felt the same. The use of Draugr as hostiles in 70% of dungeons got old fast.

      consummate707, using logical fallacies and name-calling won't win internet arguments. It might make you feel better, but that feeling is fleeting. Taking your argument to its logical conclusion, no one would be able to criticize anything that they aren't an expert in making. We can't have movie critics because they can't make great movies. Let's be satisfied with slop, since we aren't good cooks.
    12. rex8112
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      I bought Fallout 4 for Fallout 4. I just decided to buy it on my PC over my Xbone so I could get mods after I beat it. (Amongst other reasons). I think the game is amazing.
    13. Bunik
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      What the hell are you talking about?
      The game unmodded, got me to spend 3 days 13 hours on one character and 2 days of clean gaming time on another. That is 133 hours in total so far and I am far from finished with this game.
      Lots of AAA games won't last even 30 hours (w/o multiplayer). Imho money well spent.
    14. oOMexOo
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      I have a 17 day old character, with over 400 hours of VANILLA game time. The detail in this game is remarkable. Sure they messed a few things up, but the game is still, MOST DEFINITELY worth $80 AUD. This game as is, is almost unmatched by any other game in the industry within this genre. Once modded, this game will be unmatched for years to come.
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