I'd like to take this opportunity to answer some compatibilty related questions.
I tried to make this mod as compatible with other mods as possible. It doesn't touch Haylen's lines or AI until you pick up Senior Scribe Matthews' report. That being said, if you have another mod that overrides her dialogue or AI after completing Blind Betrayal, most likely you can still use this mod but I advise you to pick up Matthews' report only after you completed the quests of your other mods. This way you should be able to avoid possible conflicts.
Feel free to ask in comments if you have any questions. Thanks for reading this post.
While you likely should just avoid this mod for a Railroad playthrough, given the issues with Precipice of War mentioned by others, I did find a hotfix to get the quest to start (for me, at least): Killing Haylen before warning Desdemona, and then resurrecting her after completing Rockets' Red Glare.
This works (I think) because there are actually backups in the quest that inject a generic BoS leader to take the place of Haylen if she has been killed for some reason. Obviously, this is not a REAL fix though. It just saved me at least 12 hours of gameplay lost.
Mind you, I had to use the AFT Plus mod to make Haylen a follower and mark her as non-essential for her death to take (using console 'kill' command to avoid open murder). But after the Rockets' Red Glare quest I could use the 'resurrect' console command, quickly go through her recruitment dialogue again, and continue on as if nothing happened.
Is this safe? No. But I am currently doing the Railroad endgame radiant quests, having completed the entire main questline without a hitch. You could wait for me to write an update later on if it bit me on the ass somehow, but I thought I should share.
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I killed her RIGHT before walking into Railroad HQ to warn Desdemona (ending Underground Undercover and starting Precipice of War). You might avoid some trouble setting it up earlier.
Obviously I had recruited Haylen already, after completing Blind Betrayal, and she was living in one of my settlements.
If you have her assigned to anything in the settlement or are doing her radiant Weaponsmithing quest, you should probably do away with that first.
For unknown reasons the Vertibird did not spawn on top of the Cambridge police station as I continued with Precipice of War, but I could just enable it via console commands: 'prid 149e7f' + 'enable', after clearing the station but before Tinker Tom got up on the roof.
Haylen was acting a bit weird when I first resurrected her, not moving at all (but talking and animating otherwise), but after fast-travelling away and coming back some time later, she was just fine. The console command 'recycleactor' might have helped here (don't quote me on that).
I have both AFT Plus and The Danse Dilemma mods, plus a ton of others. Who knows how these interact with this solution? Danse is currently chilling in the Railroad HQ, for what it is worth.
I did a lot of sketchy trial-and-error before finding this solution, so bear with me if I missed bringing some detail up above that is necessary to make this work.
I'm having this problem right now. I know its been months since you posted this but do you remember whether you disabled the mod and then killed her, did the quests, and resurrected her, or did you have in on the entire time? Because I tried your method and I'm not sure if AFT is bugged for me or what, but I can't even force her to be marked unessential since it says there's a quest with her active, even though there isn't. I managed to force her to be marked unessential through console commands and did the kill command with her, but I still haven't been able to trigger Precipice of War to start. I'm not sure if there's anything you are able to provide, but its worth a shot for me since I don't want to have to backtrack like 40 hours. Thanks :>
I'm using the esp. I'm stuck in the recruiting, current stage 40. The location to send Haylen didn't show up and she just keep saying ok. I've tried the manual console from previous comment but it only give me endless exp and she still stay at the police station.
Anymore method I can try? I really want to keep Haylen, she's one of the good guy.
Edit: I managed to get it to work on the quest part. I've removed any mods that probably effect on Haylen directly. However, when I tried the editable appearance patch, it ctd. Now, I've reinstalled back the mods I've removed and Haylen seems to be okay so far.
I did a playthrough that ended with my character remaining friendly w/ the minutemen, railroad, and BoS. Honestly, the only way I like to end the game (leaves allot of playability after the main story; the tradeoff is listening to BoS soldiers whine that they weren't involved in taking down the Institute every time you're near them.)
Following that path skips Liberty Reprimed, and therefore Blind Betrayal (which is a pre-req to this mod's Quest.) Anyway, if anyone else has an issue w/ Haylen recycling her vanilla radiant quest... "setstage recruithaylen 5" will get you started with this no problem. Got her in Boston Airport with the rest of my BoS themed settlers.
i had to remove this mod it started to cheese me off could not get it to work at all after blind betrayal
i need help with it asap tryed every console command listed in the comments on here nothing worked
I'm using the ESL version. I'm stuck in the recruiting, current stage 40. The location to send Haylen didn't show up and she just keep saying ok. I've tried the manual console from previous comment but it only give me endless exp and she still stay at the police station.
I'm experiencing the same issue Larann. Unfortunately it looks like the output from SV is too much for my console window. I do have the script attached to the NPC record as I see in xedit though
Please DO NOT INSTALL this mod if doing a Railroad playthrough. Precipice of War will be permanently bugged and you'll have to start a new playthrough as neither uninstalling the mod, nor attempting to enable or fix the quest via console commands will help.
I sadly had to learn this the hard way and said goodbye to 50+ hours of gameplay. I really wish I didn't find this mod.
same goes for America Rising 2, it won't work neither if you haven't destroyed the brotherhood and aren't hostile yet nor when you had already destroyed them
Annoyingly that is THE point for this mod... in precipice of war Haylen is going to turn hostile for a creed she no longer serves. It is absurd and this mod makes sense of it
This comment wasn't here when I originally downloaded, and now I'm at the point where Precipice of War isn't starting. Has anyone figured out a workaround to get to the Railroad ending, or am I totally out of luck? I have like...a couple hundred hours in.
That's the price you pay for downloading mods, but thanks for the heads up. I have not had this issue (yet) and I've had this mod for nearly 8 months so some mod you have must be conflicting with the Haylen mod because for me i have no issues. Plus I play with institute and I do the instant recruit gameplay.
Any fix for this? I'd put in a bug report but they're turned off for this mod. Like an earlier poster, this comment wasn't here when I downloaded and installed the mod and I'm also several hundred hours in. Any way to patch with FO4Edit, perhaps?? I found a possible workaround I haven't tried yet to skip Precipice of War and go straight to Rocket's Red Glare, but optimally I'd like to do the whole RR questline.
I know this is definitely late, but I found that completing Precipice of War and then Rocket's Red Glare with commands (they don't seem to appear in journal but it gives EXP) makes Desdemona/Deacon/Tom all start walking back towards HQ from the church main room. If you warn Desdemona for End of the Line, it should fail like normal, and Father accepted them as "dead" and moved on to Airship Down. Crude as a fix and skips the some of the last RR quests, but it still seems to work. I used Cheat Terminal as fix but completequest RR302 and then RR303 should roughly do the same.
So when I try to edit Haylen's appearance in LooksMenu (since she no longer needs to fit it under that scribe cap) she becomes invisible if I try to change her hair. I can change anything else, just not her hair color or style.
I wanted Haylen as a settler and I don't want to do Railroad / Precipice of War on this run through. Killing Haylen is just a bummer but I have pushed through it before.
On this playthrough, I can recruit Haylen and do the Minutemen ending which is fine.
EDIT: I found a Gauss rifle mod which was odd and back home I was unable to store it in the workshop since it was marked as a quest item. But, I did not see a Haylen quest listed and talking to her got a "do you want to look for tech" response.
So I removed the mod and Haylen is still on guard at my settlement but she has no more dialog.
This is fine... I would have liked her medic services but I do not want locked inventory items or fetch quests.
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I tried to make this mod as compatible with other mods as possible. It doesn't touch Haylen's lines or AI until you pick up Senior Scribe Matthews' report. That being said, if you have another mod that overrides her dialogue or AI after completing Blind Betrayal, most likely you can still use this mod but I advise you to pick up Matthews' report only after you completed the quests of your other mods. This way you should be able to avoid possible conflicts.
Feel free to ask in comments if you have any questions. Thanks for reading this post.
This works (I think) because there are actually backups in the quest that inject a generic BoS leader to take the place of Haylen if she has been killed for some reason. Obviously, this is not a REAL fix though. It just saved me at least 12 hours of gameplay lost.
Mind you, I had to use the AFT Plus mod to make Haylen a follower and mark her as non-essential for her death to take (using console 'kill' command to avoid open murder). But after the Rockets' Red Glare quest I could use the 'resurrect' console command, quickly go through her recruitment dialogue again, and continue on as if nothing happened.
Is this safe? No. But I am currently doing the Railroad endgame radiant quests, having completed the entire main questline without a hitch. You could wait for me to write an update later on if it bit me on the ass somehow, but I thought I should share.
Other details:
I did a lot of sketchy trial-and-error before finding this solution, so bear with me if I missed bringing some detail up above that is necessary to make this work.
I'm not sure if there's anything you are able to provide, but its worth a shot for me since I don't want to have to backtrack like 40 hours. Thanks :>
I'm using the esp. I'm stuck in the recruiting, current stage 40. The location to send Haylen didn't show up and she just keep saying ok. I've tried the manual console from previous comment but it only give me endless exp and she still stay at the police station.
Anymore method I can try? I really want to keep Haylen, she's one of the good guy.
Edit: I managed to get it to work on the quest part. I've removed any mods that probably effect on Haylen directly. However, when I tried the editable appearance patch, it ctd. Now, I've reinstalled back the mods I've removed and Haylen seems to be okay so far.
Following that path skips Liberty Reprimed, and therefore Blind Betrayal (which is a pre-req to this mod's Quest.)
Anyway, if anyone else has an issue w/ Haylen recycling her vanilla radiant quest... "setstage recruithaylen 5" will get you started with this no problem. Got her in Boston Airport with the rest of my BoS themed settlers.
i need help with it asap tryed every console command listed in the comments on here nothing worked
I'm using the ESL version. I'm stuck in the recruiting, current stage 40. The location to send Haylen didn't show up and she just keep saying ok. I've tried the manual console from previous comment but it only give me endless exp and she still stay at the police station.
really cheesed off with this mod..
EDIT: i give it another try and Disabled the fallowing mods :
Improved Boston Airport 2.0 at Fallout 4 Nexus - Mods and community
Cambridge Police Station Settlement - Revisited at Fallout 4 Nexus - Mods and community
Boston Airport Settlement Repaired at Fallout 4 Nexus - Mods and community
Aloot's Better Cambridge Police Station at Fallout 4 Nexus - Mods and community
Ad Victoriam. A Brotherhood of Steel Overhaul Apocalyptic Edition. at Fallout 4 Nexus - Mods and community
Ad Victoriam. A Brotherhood of Steel Overhaul Apocalyptic Edition. at Fallout 4 Nexus - Mods and community
By Disabling the Mods Above i finally got the mod to work means if i do a new playthrough il have to disable them again ( unless the LarannKiar can find a way to patch these mods in) real headache to disable and re-enable mods
I sadly had to learn this the hard way and said goodbye to 50+ hours of gameplay. I really wish I didn't find this mod.
Also maybe this should be pinned.
I wanted Haylen as a settler and I don't want to do Railroad / Precipice of War on this run through. Killing Haylen is just a bummer but I have pushed through it before.
On this playthrough, I can recruit Haylen and do the Minutemen ending which is fine.
EDIT: I found a Gauss rifle mod which was odd and back home I was unable to store it in the workshop since it was marked as a quest item. But, I did not see a Haylen quest listed and talking to her got a "do you want to look for tech" response.
So I removed the mod and Haylen is still on guard at my settlement but she has no more dialog.
This is fine... I would have liked her medic services but I do not want locked inventory items or fetch quests.