I really need this mod but just discovered a message from Wrye Bash:
NoTwigs.esp: 3 deleted base records
This can cause CTD but I have no way of knowing what records have been deleted to figure out if anything else I use would call those records. Being this mod hasn't been updated in 5 years I'm worried now.
Deleted Base Records The following plugins have deleted base records. If another plugin references the deleted record, the resulting behavior is undefined. It may CTD, fail to delete the record or do any number of other things. They can only be fixed manually, which should usually be done by the mod author. Failing that, the safest course of action is to uninstall the plugin. • NoTwigs.esp: 3 deleted base records
Tragically, it deletes these three base records: ForestGrassObj02, ForestGrassObj03, ForestGrassObj04
I say tragically, because I love the end result...but eventually (usually anywhere after the 60+ IRL hour mark on a save) it can cause random CTDs because this mod deletes those three base records from the entire game (rather than doing something such as making them invisible in settlement areas only). I suspect, as a result, it can break precombines...very, very sad face because I do despise those twigs and I do love this mod's end result....
Technically, you should be able to go into FO4edit and delete every reference to those three base records, but if you use texture replacers and so on that use/alter/edit those three base records, as the MA himself says, you will eventually have problems.
The brave soul who takes it upon themselves to make all twigs invisible (like the invisible vines mod) should receive a free car or something.
Vines can be hidden with a blank texture. Easy enough.
There is a way to fix the 3 twig entries using xEdit: First, remove the author's DELETE flags. Then where it says Model, remove the file path to the nif. Last, under DATA, set Density to zero "0". Save and you're done.
This is what the mod author should have done, Instead of Deleting the entries. Hope this helps.
Thank you Brick2420. Holy s#*!! I was just checking because I am sure the deleted records called an error and crash in my game. I've used this for a few game tests, and now I am getting problems with a mod that slightly changes landscape and some density of vegetation. I stumbled on your solution looking at the plugin in Xedit and trying to fix it.
I hate the twigs, but removing them does make the ground totally bare in spots and uncovers a lot of seams and texture errors from the base game. This mod causes some flickering with LOD because it deletes the records and borks a full run when your generate lods for any mod using those textures and models.
I'm still trying to find a better way of getting rid of the freaking twiggy little things.
This mod is a must-have for every one of my playthroughs (and as I have over 5k hours logged in this game that's a lot of plays, LOL). Have recommended it to any and all of my friends that play F4. Absolutely love it and won't ever be without it. It's actually the only landscape-altering mod I ever use. Which is what makes the issue I just encountered so everlovin' bizarre.
Playing along just fine. Saved my game in Vault 88, closed the game, and went to rejoin the Real World (TM) for long enough to go to work. When I came home I loaded the game and fast traveled to Sanctuary to finish building the schoolhouse and when it loaded the settlement all of the twigs were back. ALL OF THEM. Everywhere. Same thing in every other settlement. My formerly clean and orderly environment is populated now by obnoxious twigs acting like they own to place. I made no changes. I added no other mods. I would have been hard pressed to do so from my desk at work across town even if I had wanted to. I have no one else at my house that could have messed with anything as my hubby was at work as well and comes home after I do. So literally, I closed the game and when I opened it, this mod was not working anymore. Vortex reports no conflicts with anything, and lists the mod as enabled since four months ago when I started this most recent run. My load order is the same as it always was. I have mostly crafting mods, things like SOE and Homemaker and Snappy Housekit - nothing else that changes landscapes at all, and everything has been working fine for months now anyway. I can see absolutely zero reason for this to have happened. So before I start digging into my system and mod settings to find out where the hiccup came from (and how, and why, and what the eff, computer?!) I wanted to ask if anyone else had ever had anything similar happen. I've never seen a mod deactivate without some other change prompting it, so this is weird to me. And Mama Murphy is mighty upset because now the perfectly manicured flower garden in front of her little red house has tufts of crap sticking up and making it look ugly again. And I don't want to make Mama Murphy sad.
So - anyone ever find this happening to themselves before? Or am I just that lucky?
I can't say that this has happened to me. The closest I can think of is sometimes when I download a mod from bethesda, a random mod will deactivate. More often than not, it's looksmenu for some reason. However, this can't be the problem you're having since when a mod is deactivated and you load a save, it will warn you.
What I would do if I were you, is make a hard save that you can go back to in case anything happens. Then I would go ahead and uninstall this mod, load that save, save again and install the mod. This should fix your problem, but it could cause problems in the future. I highly doubt it though as I believe this mod is only a texture replacer.
Sadly, this didn't work either. What's really weird is that I created an entirely new profile, started a brand new game and made this the ONLY mod...and it still didn't work. So I'm thinking it is likely something buggy on my end and once I get my new computer built I have every intention of messing around with this until it works again. Thanks for the suggestion!
And without broken the precombine can be marked esl with fo4edit , recorded flags , works To my knowledge I do not know of any mod that modifies this, only one Aforest ? fo4edit will tell this mod is a must !
No it didn't. You have another mod below this in your load order that is overwriting this mod's edits. Open your entire load order in FO4Edit to find the conflict. If you want both mods' changes you'll need to make a patch. That's how I resolved a conflict between this mod and Boston Natural Surroundings
There is a conflict with Boston Natural Surroundings on several of the Landscape Texture records.
The two mods add and remove different GNAMs to Grasses(aligned) so it's an easy fix in FO4Edit. Combine both mods' adds and deletions into a patch, or simply edit this mod's esp to include both mods' changes.
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NoTwigs.esp: 3 deleted base records
This can cause CTD but I have no way of knowing what records have been deleted to figure out if anything else I use would call those records. Being this mod hasn't been updated in 5 years I'm worried now.
Deleted Base Records
The following plugins have deleted base records. If another plugin references the deleted record, the resulting behavior is undefined. It may CTD, fail to delete the record or do any number of other things. They can only be fixed manually, which should usually be done by the mod author. Failing that, the safest course of action is to uninstall the plugin.
• NoTwigs.esp: 3 deleted base records
I say tragically, because I love the end result...but eventually (usually anywhere after the 60+ IRL hour mark on a save) it can cause random CTDs because this mod deletes those three base records from the entire game (rather than doing something such as making them invisible in settlement areas only). I suspect, as a result, it can break precombines...very, very sad face because I do despise those twigs and I do love this mod's end result....
Technically, you should be able to go into FO4edit and delete every reference to those three base records, but if you use texture replacers and so on that use/alter/edit those three base records, as the MA himself says, you will eventually have problems.
The brave soul who takes it upon themselves to make all twigs invisible (like the invisible vines mod) should receive a free car or something.
There is a way to fix the 3 twig entries using xEdit: First, remove the author's DELETE flags. Then where it says Model, remove the file path to the nif. Last, under DATA, set Density to zero "0". Save and you're done.
This is what the mod author should have done, Instead of Deleting the entries. Hope this helps.
Holy s#*!! I was just checking because I am sure the deleted records called an error and crash in my game. I've used this for a few game tests, and now I am getting problems with a mod that slightly changes landscape and some density of vegetation. I stumbled on your solution looking at the plugin in Xedit and trying to fix it.
I hate the twigs, but removing them does make the ground totally bare in spots and uncovers a lot of seams and texture errors from the base game. This mod causes some flickering with LOD because it deletes the records and borks a full run when your generate lods for any mod using those textures and models.
I'm still trying to find a better way of getting rid of the freaking twiggy little things.
Always had a problem with random CTD's, maybe this will help.
Playing along just fine. Saved my game in Vault 88, closed the game, and went to rejoin the Real World (TM) for long enough to go to work. When I came home I loaded the game and fast traveled to Sanctuary to finish building the schoolhouse and when it loaded the settlement all of the twigs were back. ALL OF THEM. Everywhere. Same thing in every other settlement. My formerly clean and orderly environment is populated now by obnoxious twigs acting like they own to place. I made no changes. I added no other mods. I would have been hard pressed to do so from my desk at work across town even if I had wanted to. I have no one else at my house that could have messed with anything as my hubby was at work as well and comes home after I do. So literally, I closed the game and when I opened it, this mod was not working anymore. Vortex reports no conflicts with anything, and lists the mod as enabled since four months ago when I started this most recent run. My load order is the same as it always was. I have mostly crafting mods, things like SOE and Homemaker and Snappy Housekit - nothing else that changes landscapes at all, and everything has been working fine for months now anyway. I can see absolutely zero reason for this to have happened. So before I start digging into my system and mod settings to find out where the hiccup came from (and how, and why, and what the eff, computer?!) I wanted to ask if anyone else had ever had anything similar happen. I've never seen a mod deactivate without some other change prompting it, so this is weird to me. And Mama Murphy is mighty upset because now the perfectly manicured flower garden in front of her little red house has tufts of crap sticking up and making it look ugly again. And I don't want to make Mama Murphy sad.
So - anyone ever find this happening to themselves before? Or am I just that lucky?
What I would do if I were you, is make a hard save that you can go back to in case anything happens. Then I would go ahead and uninstall this mod, load that save, save again and install the mod. This should fix your problem, but it could cause problems in the future. I highly doubt it though as I believe this mod is only a texture replacer.
can be marked esl with fo4edit , recorded flags , works
To my knowledge I do not know of any mod that modifies this,
only one Aforest ?
fo4edit will tell
this mod is a must !
Anybody know if klus1ve is still playing/modding? This is a MUST have in my mod list.
If you want both mods' changes you'll need to make a patch. That's how I resolved a conflict between this mod and Boston Natural Surroundings
There is a conflict with Boston Natural Surroundings on several of the Landscape Texture records.
The two mods add and remove different GNAMs to Grasses(aligned) so it's an easy fix in FO4Edit. Combine both mods' adds and deletions into a patch, or simply edit this mod's esp to include both mods' changes.