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  1. Deathlock47
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    Seems the mod is doing ok, so I guess I will answer common questions.

    1, How do you earn the Gardeners respect to do bounties?
    -It's actually really simple and obvious, figure it out.
    2, Does this work with _____ mod?
    - it should. nothing has really been edited. All is new and standalone. That being said, mods that make you friends with the gunners are going to make the hunters friendly ALL the time. A few console commands that remove you from that faction AND makes you neutral to them will be required.
    3, Can you explain how every aspect and mechanic of the mod works?
    - No, what would be the fun of a mod that you know everything about? this is not a weapon, armor or faction mod. it's like this to be an experience mod. like a game should be.
    4, can I stalk you and post on your mod page and find you on discord? can I ask you a bunch of questions and tell you about my experiences?
    - yes, you can. just don't show up at my house. I don't know what this thing is where people think that a modder is somehow some untouchable person that has no time to deal with people. I don't do this for money. please tell me your epic story with my mod. that's the best payment I can get.

    there are many spoilers below this line. read at your own risk.
  2. Deathlock47
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    i give my permission for this mod to be edited and re-uploaded by anyone as long as they follow the following conditions:

    -add the credits that I have posted. the music is covered under creative commons and requires credits. don't forget about me too.
    -do not add this to any console system unless you are positive that this mod will not irreversibly mess up there saves without the use of console commands.

    i not sure when i can keep working on this so i don't think it would be fair for me to hold on to this if there are others out there that can improve/fix issues.
  3. bigdawg9280
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    I was wondering would this be still coming to xbox this is a cool mod.
  4. HamTM
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    So when you get a bounty, does your target just run in a straight line from Point A to Point B or do they actually follow roads and such?
    1. jaderiver
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      No, not always, depends on the bounty..
    2. Edrosty
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      Best bet is to just go to the destination and wait there for a few hours. A bounty can get to the destination but you still have that time limit, so if you wait in a chair near the destination, the NPC likely will just be AT the destination, while you still have plenty of time to kill them, since the system works on time and not destination.
  5. Urzahil
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    Love this mod. Using it in combination with RSA's "Nemesis" effect resulted in the most intense battle I've ever experienced in Fallout 4. (Mini-army of Gunners, jumped by a bounty hunter team, had to drag a pack of feral ghouls through them to draw away some fire) plus a lot of movement and use of cover.

    What saved my butt was a powered up Courser power armor with medic module and my trusty IF-54 Beowulf. And it was on Very Hard mode but my health bar was like a yo yo throughout the 20+ minute battle. I had to take a lengthy break after that battle..thank god the bounty hunter group did NOT have a paralyzer or weapon stealer...or I'd be screwed.
    1. Edrosty
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      I always carry a typical FPS arsenal with me just in case one gun doesn't work, or in case the bastards like to steal weapons.
      1st slot- Pistol (Short-Medium Range)
      2nd slot- Semi-Auto AR (Universal Range)
      3rd slot- Shotgun (Short Range)
      4th slot- Automatic AR/SMG (Short-Medium Range)
      5th slot- Sniper (Long Range)
      6th+ - Heavies (Universal Range)

      It's damn useful to have backups, I can say that. Had a fight with 3 squads at me at the same time. Holy s*** I have never been more stressed, and 3 of my guns were stolen and I forgot to loot them back after the fight. Lost 'em cause bodies poofed after I left the area for a bit. Oops!
  6. bchick1
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    Hello,
    THis is my first time using the mod, and I found 'Gardener' dead. He had been killed at Drumlin's Diner.
    I would have thought he would be set to essential ??
    Anyway, NOW WHAT?
    1. jaderiver
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      ..
      Have you read the description ?
      You can / craft get a holo tape , you can use like a reset which might help with the gardener coming back to life ..
      Updating:
      the holotape comes with a "stop mod function". if I make changes to the mods scripts, quests, and some other stuff you will need to run the stopper
      function, save, then update before running the restart function. your items, and standing with the bounty hunters will be the same but during that time nothing will happen until you run the restart function. this will allow me to edit things that are normally stored in your save files like running
      scripts and quest status.

      If you do not run the stop function and update, Jimmy. the information stored in your save may not work with the updated new information which can cause the mod to fail in a lot of areas. If this happens you will have to uninstall the mod and make a save after. then reinstall the mod but all the work you have done (and mod assets) will be lost. forever. I guess until you earn them back.

      Craft a holo tape at the chem station and go thru it it has info on how to's
    2. bchick1
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      OK and thanks for the response.
      I have uninstalled the mod (using MO2) cleaned the save file and restarted with a 'clean save'. I am going to re-install the mod. If I should find 'Gardener' dead again, I will try to 'resurrect' him. if that fails, I will use the holotape (yes, I had crafted one before,) but was unaware that it would fix this kind of thing.
      Will work through it...

      Thanks again !!
  7. Viscrimson
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    So what do you do when a dagger paralyzes you, and your companion kills the BH. I am stuck paralyzed and ... that's it. Nothing I can do about it.
    1. jaderiver
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      Yes your stuck, for a short time, its not permanent, its mean to hold you still till they can get to you take your caps, or such like , but it does wear off ..
    2. Mdragon14
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      how long does it take? I've had it keep me there for like 10 mins AFTER a hunter stole from me :\
  8. wpvc
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    Could have been such an awesome mod, but the creator made a fatal decision: the way of "earning the gardeners respect". I read in the sticky here:

    "1, How do you earn the Gardeners respect to do bounties?
    -It's actually really simple and obvious, figure it out."

    Shame to say it nowhere near OBVIOUS at all: because apparently you have to be a submissive *censored* first to earn their "respect". Yep you have to let them beat you first, let them steal your s***, only THEN you can join. Now I didn't experience this myself, I had to read it somewhere online because the gardener kept saying: "nope, the other hunters no likey you yet, no bounties for you".

    What is OBVIOUS is mauling bounty hunters down because they attack first. I killed Smokey, Sally and when Red's skull blew away by my Gaussey, I got the message the bounty hunters no likey me and will only try to kill me from now on. Guess this was the point of no return and bounties from the Gardener are gone forever. Sure don' t give the greatest hunter of the commonwealth bounties, that makes perfect f***ing sense...............

    Epic failed mod unfortunately.
    1. jaderiver
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      Shame to say it nowhere near OBVIOUS at all: because apparently you have to be a submissive *censored* first to earn their "respect". Yep you have to let them beat you first, let them steal your s***, only THEN you can join. Now I didn't experience this myself, I had to read it somewhere online because the gardener kept saying: "nope, the other hunters no like you yet, no bounties for you".

      Firstly you Dont join them ever, getting the gardeners respect allows you to receive bounties from the gardener..

      What is OBVIOUS is mauling bounty hunters down because they attack first. I killed Smokey, Sally and when Red's skull blew away by my Gaussey, I got the message the bounty hunters no likey me and will only try to kill me from now on. Guess this was the point of no return and bounties from the Gardener are gone forever. Sure don' t give the greatest hunter of the commonwealth bounties, that makes perfect f***ing sense

      secondly , yes that happens if you kill the leader the others will hate that and become tougher to kill which Does make sense, also since you killed the gardener , of which I have no idea if he re-spawns because I've never done that, they maybe yes that is now a point of no return you mightn't to never get bounties...
      And lastly if the mod makes no sense and just annoys you , then uninstall it and move on Or if your adept in creation or such type programs , the mod author given permission for anyone to take over the mod and make it better, so perhaps you then ?
    2. wpvc
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      Ah jaderiver, this Mods number one supporter...I knew you would reply xD
      First of all, I did not kill the Gardener. Nor did I ever write I did. I killed the bounty hunters leaders with unique names that "hunted" and attacked me first, because I killed raiders and gunners (scumbags, so I did not even commit a crime). Even though I keep killing bounty hunters and their named leaders, The Gardener and the bounty hunters at drumlin dinner NEVER attack me.

      If I see a high potential mod, I read the description first and try it. However, the description is plain false and the entire mod is opposite of what makes sense. I had high hopes and got disappointed. So I write my review here for others to read my experience as well. As I have the right to.

      Convince me with arguments why it makes sense a deep voiced bad ass looking bounty distributor, that seeks bad ass hunters to hunt prey, would respect a weak ass flake that gets beaten like a b*tch, and I will happily delete my entire post.
    3. jaderiver
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      LoL I just like to try n help ppl with this because I was one of the group who helped david test it out in alpha , plus I cant play without this xD ( still has it )

      Sorry my bad , misread the line about gardener gone for ever
      Ok here's my pitch lol , ok firstly the ones at the diner wont attack nor attack me , I'm not sure the set up with those but I think its like or meant to be kinda like a job station scene, where they're waiting for their next job or thats what the look is sposed give .
      Secondly Do you read the notes at all, ? they're like or meant to be like little clues or inside info on their background, as for why gardener would to have any dealings with you, and have you doing jobs for him, is explained in one of the notes found on the bodies, about you being the target, and now the target is doing the dirty jobs that the gardener doesn't want to send his own people on..
      There how was that, for a pitch xD
    4. wpvc
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      I think the neutral zones (drumlin diner, diamond city, goodneighbour) are a nice touch to this mod. Almost like a bounty hunter code to never attack a target in these area's, and thats cool.

      I've had like a dozen attempts on my life by bounty hunters and sometimes did found some notes on named leaders called: "mass killing bounty". But so far these notes only state that they have to kill me for some client because I kicked raiders/gunners ass. Except for "mass killing bounty 3", this note says I am being tested.

      I still hope defending myself from bounty hunters will result in the Gardener "respecting" me further in the mod. If so, I will delete my first post and endorse this mod. ;)
    5. jaderiver
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      Lol ok heh, tho in good neighbour , you can still kill them out write, they come there supposedly shopping , but looking for you, and will point their gun at you or run back to where you are see if your still there ..
      And in dc too if you follow them to seats at the security office and use a silenced wepon xD
      Also dont be too surprised if they suddenly show up on they prydwen after that that first vertibird ride, like I was, they showed up looking for me and all hell broke loose , lolol fun times, david said they used something called keyword to gain entry, I dont fully understand that, but guessing it like a doorway basically after you the player has gone thru ...
  9. Grognaurd
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    I want to thank you for all the hard work you did on your amazing mod. But, there are some plot holes. If I meet The Gardner while wearing X-01 as The General of the Minutemen and he is wearing a T-shirt, who is the chump? I have stolen NOTHING. I do not do that, I play Minutemen Good Guy. Yea, the Paladin comes out of the vault to reclaim civilization. I build settlements. I build them well. This pisses The Gardner and his raider palls off. I believe I have killed five of his teams. Most recently, Dirtnap and Ju-wein (?) at the same time. I was in cloth with piper, so I kinda got caught with my pants down. This fight agro'ed Supermutants with a suicider. Underneith an Zeppelin above that also agro'ed.

    If I trounce a bunch of his raiding parties and finds notes directing these attacks with his Signature, well, we are going to have words, but that is not an option. These guys have a good AI. Nice mix melee, ranged, DPS and debuff. At the end, DirtNap did a great job backing off to heal after I charged to melee and he did have an awesome healing rate. When one sees the health bar going faster up then down, that is a very player like buff to the AI. It is unexpected and appreciated. But with Blitz I closed, built up crits and cut his head off. Mercs are expensive as hell and hard to replace. No way can a Merc unit like "Executive Outcomes:" or "Blackwater" make money with those level of casualties. If cashflow is not the objective and we move to morality as motivation, if The Gardner and his Merry Men want to side with the raiders I will exterminate them.

    Update:
    I am not a modder, that is well above me and I am in awe of what you all do. Maybe bounty note from raiders becomes a quest trigger.Maybe a FOMod where ambushes are triggered by only criminal violations and / or settlement expansion. Maybe some more mystery where The Gardner does not spawn at Drumlin initially. Who is the The Gardner? Why the hell does he side with the Raiders? A Charisma check when presenting the first raider bounty. This mechanic could be repeated as easier with each defeat of his dispatched unit.

    Thanks again
  10. xicovsky
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    I'm really liking the mod so far but sometimes, after a battle with the bounty hunters, I get a permanent waving screen effect. I've tried waiting, sleeping, steampacking, the effect never goes away. Is it a bug, is there a way to remove this? When this happens I have to load a previously saved game to prevent this from happening and avoid being it by the bounty hunters.
    1. jaderiver
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      Waving effect ?
      Is it when they hit you with slime ? or some other ?
    2. Tximinoman
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      I know this is a bit late response but I have the same problem, I think the mod's conflicting with the weather mod I use (don't remember the name of it but I'm assuming you're using the same), the "heat" effect seems to appear every time the bounty hunters appear (seems to be kind of an alarm to warn you about them, just like your gun suddenly flashing red), but sometimes it just doesn't go off. The only way I've found to stop the whole thing is to use the tape and restart the weathers mod (turn it off and then on again), it's a pain in the ass for sure but I don't think there's any other choice.
    3. xicovsky
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      Well I'll be damned, that fixed it. I was about to upload a video to youtube to show what I meant (since it had just happened) and reseting NAC (the wheather mod) fixed it.
    4. lovejam
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      You can open NAC, scroll to Misc option (the option right above reset settings), toggle on and then off alcohol/chem effects (it's the first option in this sub-menu). But sometimes the effect comes back a second time during a battle so, wash, rinse and repeat.
  11. ghostpowerelder
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    can anyone give me a heads up on how to make this work with Gunners Overhaul - Initially Friendly Gunners?
    1. jaderiver
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      What is and isn't happening ? load order shift ?
    2. TheWanderer1991
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      Bumping as well. My bounty hunters are always friendly even if they are attacking me. Half the time they just start following me and helping me kill things.
    3. jaderiver
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      @ Thew you must have an npc mod of some sort thats interfering with this , because the only time they're even remotely friend is at the diner ?
  12. threefoldmind
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    Anyone have plans to add The Unstoppables to the list of named Bounty Hunters? I would love to see Silver Shroud, Grognak, Miss Mystery, Manta Man, and the Inspecter as Bounty Hunters
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