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  1. Tunakan1
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    Hello @EthicalLune I downloaded the Unbogous Perks Alt 1.7 and the heavy gunner perk is showing the changed version from the other file instead of the vanilla effect.

    The other damage perks are working just fine though. I am wondering if this is just a visual bug or if it really is the changed version.

    Hopefully this mod isnt too old and I can get a response.
    1. Tunakan1
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      @EthicalLune I took a look at Heavy gunner in fo4edit and the only thing that I can see that is different from vanilla is the description and under EPFD - Data - Float, The number is different. Vanilla has a float of 1.600000 and your UnbogusPerksAlt has a Float of 1.150000

      Honestly I have absolutely no idea if that is what is causing the difference between the 2 because im not sure what I am doing in fo4edit.

      Thank you for the great mod
        
    2. Tunakan1
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      I edited the float values myself and it fixed the problem thankfully. I tested my edit on a fatman and a minigun, seems to be working well. I also updated the perk description to match vanilla.
      I will upload my edit if contacting EthicalLune is not possible
    3. Tunakan1
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      I have uploaded my own bugfix. If you want to download it check out my account

      Edit: Or this link https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/79426

      Also if EthicalLune uploads their own fix or wants me to remove my version I will do that.
  2. Foregone
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    Hey guys, I got a problem with this mod here, though first I'd like to point out, that it would be very unfortunate, if I couldn't use it anymore, because it's exactly what I was searching for all the time (gameplay wise).

    I am playing this game quite heavily modded (170 mods+) and the last couple of in game hours the game keeps freezing for me, when engaging combat. This happens mostly when engaging humans and ghouls (though... I am not sure if this is exclusive to these to "groups"). I can "workaround" this problem by staying in stealth and oneshotting enemies per head shot, but this isn't possible all the time, especially when fighting several enemies at once.

    When I am shooting one of these two, it randomly occurs, that the game freezes and I have to close it by going into the task manager and end the task. This doesn't happen every time.

    At first I thought it might be because of some kind of combat mod, but in the end it turned out to be Unbogus Perks. As soon as I deactivate this mod, everything works fine.

    I saw someone else in the steam forums having the same problem with this mod. After he/she turned the mod off, the game didn't freeze anymore. Now I wonder what the problem is, because I'd like to keep playing my savegame with this mod.

    At this point I'm not going to post my pc specs anymore, because I am pretty sure, that it's not because of my computer, that is causing these freezes. I'd rather post the perks I skilled.
    Attributes:
    Strength 3, Perception 4, Endurance 3, Charisma 7, Intelligence 9, Agility 4, Luck 3.
    Perks:
    Strength: Armorer Rank 4
    Perception: Locksmith Rank 3
    Endurance: -
    Charisma: Black Widow Rank 3, Local Leader Rank 2,
    Intelligence: Gun Nut Rank 4, Hacker Rank 3, Scrapper Rank 3, Science! Rank 4, Nuclear Physicist Rank 2
    Agility: Gunslinger Rank 2, Sneak Rank 5
    Luck: Scrounger Rank 4, Bloody Mess Rank 3

    I hope you can help me out with this. I don't know it this is a problem that definately occurs at very specific spots, but if someone would like to test it out: A freeze (at least for me) occurs when I have these perks and get into Fort Hagen. When I start shooting the synths there while I am sneaking (several times! otherwise they won't engage you) the game freezes. I also tried different weapons.

    Edit: I also tried putting the mod at the end of my load order and I also started this save game with the mod.
    Steam link to the forums of that post (5. reply): https://steamcommunity.com/app/377160/discussions/0/1489987634003974437/
    1. FriendGaru
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      I just came here to report pretty much the exact same thing. After getting about 30~40 hours into a pretty heavily modded game, I also started experiencing intermittent freezes. It was pretty tricky to track down the problem, as the freezes were hard to reproduce exactly. The pattern as far as I could tell was in certain areas the game would freeze after a few moments in combat. It seemed to happen primarily when fighting raiders (Thicket Excavations) and ghouls (Jamaica Plains, Boston Airport). I was using the following perks on my character:
      Strength 3: Armorer 4
      Perception 5: Locksmith 2
      Endurance 4: Toughness 1, Lead Belly 2
      Charisma 3: Local Leader 2 (Granted via console command)
      Intelligence 7: Gun Nut 4, Hacker 2, Scrapper 3, Science 4, Chemist 1,
      Agility 6: Sneak 6, Action Girl 3
      Luck 3: Bloody Mess 3

      Here's the load order I was using, in case that helps:
      Fallout4.esm=1
      DLCRobot.esm=1
      DLCworkshop01.esm=1
      DLCCoast.esm=1
      DLCworkshop02.esm=1
      DLCworkshop03.esm=1
      DLCNukaWorld.esm=1
      Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp=1
      ArmorKeywords.esm=1
      HUDFramework.esm=1
      NPCScaling.esm=1
      Homemaker.esm=1
      XDI.esm=1
      SimSettlements.esm=1
      FO4Hotkeys.esp=1
      DOF Removal.esp=1
      AltChameleonVisuals.esp=1
      SleepOrSave.esp=1
      BostonFPSFixAIO.esp=1
      spacefiddle_Follower-Stealth-Distance-Fixes.esp=1
      Lever Action Reload Fix.esp=1
      QuickTrade.esp=1
      LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp=1
      PA-Quick Animations.esp=1
      NoSharedDogmeatTemplate.esp=1
      More Where That Came From Diamond City.esp=1
      Elvani's Track Pack - FIX.esp=1
      Covscript.esp=1
      3DNPC_FO4.esp=1
      EnterTheBrotherhood.esp=1
      nvvault1080.esp=1
      ValdacilsItemSorting-00-ValsPicks-DLCVersion-VanillaWeight.esp=1
      MoreAGOMBz.esp=1
      Armorsmith Extended.esp=1
      FaceMaxson.esp=1
      CombatZoneRestored.esp=1
      Eli_Armour_Compendium.esp=1
      AA FusionCityRising.esp=1
      NamedNPCProtect-uber.esp=1
      RecruitableSettlers.esp=1
      Backpacks of the Commonwealth.esp=1
      Galaxy News Radio.esp=1
      RecruitableSettlersFH.esp=1
      ruined_simsettlement_addonpack.esp=1
      Mercenary.esp=1
      ABundleofTape.esp=1
      WattzLaserGun.esp=1
      aaaAmericanDreamRadio.esp=1
      Mercury.esp=1
      SimSettlements_MegaPack_YearOne.esp=1
      AtomicRadio.esp=1
      OWR.esp=1
      OWR2.esp=1
      AtomCatsRadio.esp=1
      Conelrad 640-1240.esp=1
      Blues Radio DBR.esp=1
      Existence 2.0.esp=1
      Publick Occurrences Expanded.esp=1
      BloodpackCraftBE.esp=1
      ManufacturingExtended.esp=1
      ManufacturingExtendedFH.esp=1
      ValdacilsItemSorting-Junk+DEF_INV.esp=1
      VIS UFO4P Patch Vanilla Weight.esp=1
      ValdacilsItemSorting-NotJunk.esp=1
      ValdacilsItemSorting-ArmorBySlot.esp=1
      ValdacilsItemSorting-CosmeticsByType.esp=1
      Spare Railroad as Institute.esp=1
      No Aggro Impact Landing.esp=1
      Durable Vehicles - MV x2.esp=1
      WAYN_CompanionTracking.esp=1
      WAYN_CompanionTracking_Automatron.esp=1
      Companion Fall Damage Immunity.esp=1
      EveryonesBestFriend.esp=1
      CompanionStatus.esp=1
      NoAffinityCooldown.esp=1
      FG_Affinity5x.esp=1
      Binary Speech Checks V.4.esp=1
      UnbogusLunchboxes.esp=1
      SurvivalOptions.esp=1
      SkipHSH1_6.esp=1
      SlowTime.esp=1
      GKX Worthwhile Caps Stashes.esp=1
      EasyHacking.esp=1
      Faster Terminal Displays (20x).esp=1
      OutfitSwitcher.esp=1
      SettlementMenuManager.esp=1
      Multiple Floors Sandboxing.esp=1
      BetterSettlers.esp=1
      BetterSettlersCleanFacePack.esp=1
      BetterSettlersNoLollygagging.esp=1
      Settler Sandbox Overhaul.esp=1
      SimSettlements_XPAC_IndustrialRevolution.esp=1
      WVSimSAddon.esp=1
      SimSettlements_XPAC_RiseOfTheCommonwealth.esp=1
      SalvageBeacons.esp=1
      Vertibird Alt Fix.esp=1
      SimSettlements_IDEKsLogisticsStation.esp=1
      IndustrialCity_Sim_Settlements_Addon.esp=1
      Sim_Settlements_Mayors.esp=1
      SK_Leaders1.esp=1
      DeployableTurretsPack.esp=1
      DTP - AWKCR Compatibility.esp=1
      VIS - Tales From the Commonweath.esp=1
      Eli Armor Compendium AE VIS Patch.esp=1
      Radrose Usability Enhancements.esp=1
      Armorsmith All DLCs Patch.esp=1
      ABundleofTape - VIS.esp=1
      10mmSMG.esp=1
      1CAS_serviceRifle.esp=1
      FHLeveledListIntegration.esp=1
      Crossbow.esp=1
      Pip-Boy Flashlight.esp=1
      PurifiedToDirtyWater.esp=1
      NewRecipesFH-VIS.esp=1
      VATST_Targeting_ReallySlow.esp=1
      LooksMenu.esp=1
      UnbogusPerks.esp=1
      BetterCompanions.esp=1
      Move (Get Out the Way).esp=1
      VIS - Settlement Menu Manager.esp=1
      VIS - Sim Settlements.esp=1
      VIS - Fusion City Rising.esp=1
      VIS - Outcasts and Remnants.esp=0
      VIS - SS WVSimAddon AIO.esp=1
      VIS - Service Rifle.esp=1
      VIS - Wattz Laser Gun.esp=1
      VIS - Backpacks of the Commonwealth.esp=1
      VIS - SS Industrial City.esp=1
      Arbitration - Better Combat AI.esp=1
      Arbitration - Reduced Grenade Spam.esp=1
      Arbitration - Farther Grenade Detection.esp=1
      Arbitration - Stealth Overhaul.esp=1
      Arbitration - Fall Damage Overhaul.esp=1
      Arbitration - No Condition Regeneration.esp=1
      Loot Detector.esp=1
      UnbogusHealthScaling.esp=1
      EquilibriumWeapons.esp=1
      Gunsmith Extended.esp=1
      EquilibriumWeaponsAWKCR.esp=1
      LegendaryModification.esp=1
      LegendaryModification2LM.esp=1
      LegendaryModification2LMAKPatch.esp=1
      LegendaryModificationMisc.esp=1
      LegendaryModificationCSA.esp=1
      LegendaryModificationGroknak.esp=1
      LegendaryModification - DLC Far Harbor.esp=1
      LegendaryModification - DLC Far Harbor (2LM).esp=1
      Radrose Usability - Workbench Perk Requirements + Armorsmith.esp=1
      Radrose Usability - Empty Bottles.esp=1
      Radrose - Valdacil Patch - 3DNPC_FO4.esp=1
      Radrose - Valdacil Patch - AA FusionCityRising.esp=1
      Radrose - Valdacil Patch - AtomCatsRadio.esp=1
      Radrose - Valdacil Patch - AtomicRadio.esp=1
      Radrose - Valdacil Patch - BetterCompanions.esp=1
      VIS - Better Companions.esp=1
      Radrose - Valdacil Patch - Blues Radio DBR.esp=1
      Radrose - Valdacil Patch - Conelrad 640-1240.esp=1
      Radrose - Valdacil Patch - Crossbow.esp=1
      Radrose - Valdacil Patch - Existence 2.0.esp=1
      Radrose - Valdacil Patch - FO4Hotkeys.esp=1
      Radrose - Valdacil Patch - Galaxy News Radio.esp=1
      Radrose - Valdacil Patch - LegendaryModificationMisc + DLC Far Harbor.esp=1
      Radrose - Valdacil Patch - Mercury.esp=1
      Radrose - Valdacil Patch - nvault1080.esp=1
      Radrose - Valdacil Patch - OutfitSwitcher.esp=1
      Radrose - Valdacil Patch - OWR.esp=1
      Radrose - Valdacil Patch - OWR2.esp=1
      Radrose - Valdacil Patch - Publick Occurrences Expanded.esp=1
      Radrose - Valdacil Patch - RecruitableSettlers.esp=1
      Radrose - Valdacil Patch - SimSettlements.esp=1
      Radrose - Valdacil Patch - SleepOrSave.esp=1
      Radrose - Valdacil Patch - SlowTime.esp=1
      Radrose - Valdacil Patch - Gunsmith Extended.esp=1
      Radrose - Valdacil Patch - Mercenary.esp=1
      Radrose - Valdacil Patch - WVSimSAddon.esp=1
      Radrose - Valdacil Patch - Armorsmith Extended.esp=1
      Radrose - Valdacil Patch - Eli_Armour_Compendium.esp=1
      VIS - Eli's Armour Compendium.esp=1
      Radrose - Valdacil Patch - ruined_simsettlement_addonpack.esp=1
      VIS - SS Ruined Settlements.esp=1
      Radrose - Valdacil Patch - Loot Detector.esp=1
      FG_CraftSalvageBeacons.esp=1
      Radrose - Valdacil Patch - SalvageBeacons.esp=1
      StartMeUp.esp=1
      FO4Merged.esp=1
      Bashed Patch, 0.esp=1

      I was really digging Unbogus Perks, I'm disappointed it looks like I won't be able to continue with it.
    2. AbySSsSss
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      EDIT: I can't figure this out either
    3. SinFe
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      It's because of Sneak rank 5, which was fixed in the Overhaul if you look in the Bugs section. Remove that rank with console and your freeze/CTD should stop.
    4. amirullahizzan
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      yoo this killing me i shouldve read this earlier... Sneak rank 5 is indeed broken.

      edit : just remove the weird effect with xedit and its working again
  3. Sivle12337
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    Any idea how I can use this without level requirements?
    1. amirullahizzan
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      yes you can, download xEdit. and with that find the unbogus perks "Perks", find all the perks you want to modify, look for Level columns and just replace it with 1 instead of the level numbers. xedit is quite easy its not really that hard to use
  4. amirullahizzan
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    my sneak level 5 still has "Stealth cause distant enemies lose to you" and its the only perk that is different from the description, everything else works fine

    edit : im so sorry it was WIPAG replaced it.. :( shouldve noticed this in xedit earlier
  5. tbernal117
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    Game freezes at start of combat.
    you guys got a fix?
  6. Paperguide152
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    since you wont be updating these individual mods could you please give permission to other modders to fix/edit these standalone mods? i dont want the overhaul but i really want most of the features of this mod.
  7. AkatsukiLG
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    I know this is an old mod but, I dont know if this was intended or not but heavy gunner on my game is stuck at 5% increments even though I downloaded and installed the alt version. Every other damage perk is retained at normal but heavy gunner.
    1. Paperguide152
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      damn, and i was mostly excited to download this mod, and no way im downloading the complete overhaul, i only want certain features not a complete rebalance of the game
  8. Shadowbane1990
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    Really enjoy this mod but I have to say the removal of the Grenade Throwing Arc should have been in the misc version and not the main file version, as it takes away something from the game many people use all the time. I saw this mod as a perk overhaul, not a feature remover. Everything else it does great.

    If anyone more adept with FO4Edit knows how to add the grenade arc to one of the perks, I would love to know.

    EDIT: I downloaded this mod here for "Grenade Arc Without Demolition Expert" and after some fiddling around it worked. This works fine on a new save with Unbogus perks.

    HOWEVER!!! If you started with Unbogus and without the newer previously mentioned mod. You have some extra steps to take after installing it to get it to work properly if you want to keep the character you already started on. I had to do this myself and almost lost hope that anything would actually  work

    1. Remove any Demolitionist Perks from your character you previously had, you can find them via -[ Help "Demolition Expert" 4 Perk ]-
    2. Use the command line -[ CGF "GameAddPerkPoints" X ]- were X is the number of perks you took away so you can get your points back
    3. Save the game and close it entirely - if that's not clear enough... CLOSE THE PROGRAM!!!
    4. After rebooting up Fallout 4, use the command -[ help "holographic grenade throwing" 4 NOTE ]- to acquire the holotape and turn it [ON]

    Now with all that out of the way, you should be seeing the grenade throwing arc again. Hope this helps.
  9. LucasQRS
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    i'll be completely honest, i was searching for some mods to fix steady aim's and quick hands's dumb 2,3,4th ranks and s***, and got interested in some of the changes in your mod as well.
    more specifically:
    •Steady Aim gives you 20/40/70% increased accuracy with firearms and -10/20/40% spread for shotguns
    •Sniper grants you additional ranged sneak attack damage, the same you'd get from vanilla Ninja
    •Quick Hands gives you 25/50/75% faster reload spead instead of 35%, and 20 action points instead of 10
    •Ninja only applies to melee weapons, since when does a ninja wield a shotgun?
    •Ninja grants you x4/5/6 sneak attack damage, still 'very' powerful but a bit less overpowered
    (i thought about moving the melee/unarmed sneak bonus to sandman making ninja a more agility/stealth perk, what do you think about it)
    •Ninja grants you 15/30/55% faster movement speed while sneaking
    •Ninja additionally makes you 5/10/20% harder to see in the dark while sneaking
    •Action Boy/Girl additionally gives you 50/75/100% extra jump height while sprinting and 30/50/80% reduced fall damage
    (the fall damage reduction is kinda useless for me since i use the Stronger Perks mod)

    but i couldn't just ask you to separate them for me i thought, so i went and tried changing them on my own and... well i don't even know how to use FO4Edit anyways.
    so now i'm here asking if you could help at least change these on my own or anything helpful

    if it's not a bother of course
  10. arojas4430
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    Is there any way for you to add a version without any DLC