This mod makes perfect sense and I'm glad you addressed the unrealistic invulnerability of feeding victims. However, I use the Dawnguard DLC, which purportedly causes the infamous vampiric feeding glitch. IE- when a vampire feeds (even on designated "cattle" ) a bug kicks in that causes the vampire to be helplessly stuck in place. Does this mod provide a fix to that irritating problem? If you can be certain it does, I'd be more than happy to promote it.
It absolutely does not fix that glitch and I have never experienced that glitch. I've actually never fed as a vampire except in making this mod (ironic, I know). I did not experience said glitch while creating and testing this mod, which involved a lot of feeding. I do use the unofficial patches, which may fix the glitch themselves.
In creating this mod I did go over all of the vampire feeding script and it's literally just a call to play an animation. If the animation freezes in place, then it is most likely a problem with the animation file itself.
This sounds like a problem I used to have in my vampire mod @ the getting stuck frozen in place and unable to move. I had to do a little digging to find a solution, but what worked for me was adding in 2 lines in the the PlayerVampireQuestScript:
However comma, my script is modified to all hell, so if yer not using any vampire mods that modify that script i'd have to take a look at the vanilla script to see where it would go.
As far as the bug itself, My guess is that when you go to feed on npcs (ive only ever had it happen on awake npcs), the player character gets registered for an animation event in which the player gets controls disabled and set to run on AI, but something screws up and the event never completes and essentially get stuck waiting an event that cant complete.
Hey aharttsx - thanks for the input! Messing with files is a bit daunting, but I might just try skipping the designated cattle and go for the sleepers... see if that works for me. Besides, that's how we did it back in Cyrodiil anyway. I'm nostalgic like that
You could also try opening the console and clicking on yourself and typing TAI. I doubt it'll work, but it might. Have you searched Nexus specifically for a frozen bite bugfix? This mod isn't meant to be a bugfix, but if another mod does fix it, the two ought to be compatible.
Hey Puff, Sadly, I haven't found any legitimate bugfix... just suggestions to workarounds. Its a very strange bug. It doesn't seem to stick to one pattern; it grabs you in 3rd person sometimes, sometimes in 1st... sometimes lets you feed on standing cattle... sometimes doesn't let you feed on a sleeper in either mode. I will try the TAI console command. Thanks for that. I was curious to see if being a non-Volkihar vampire would make any difference, and to be honest- the worst of the problems seems to have come AFTER joining Serana. I will test my older saves and my post-Serana saves to see what messes up the least LOL. I am tempted to add the lines aharttsx suggested to the .ini file... but that would be a last resort. I do use 2 mods that alter vamps- Less Sunken Cheeks and Female Vamps Have Fangs.
Nope... TAI did not work. Although your mod works just as promised, it only seems to complicate the problem further, requiring more risky feedings to achieve the desired result. Darn it... and I've really grown to like this character. I guess I'll have to console in some blood potions for her to drink while I continue to look for solutions. *sigh*
@ dallesse , Do you have a source folder inside the scripts folder? if you do, it should be in there as a .psc file, (the script in its uncompiled format). It's been awhile since i've been able to mess around with modding, but last i checked you get the source folder when you install the Creation Kit (which you need to compile the script anyway). If you haven't messed around with the CK before, i could see if i could make the changes to the script for you and send you the .pex file (which you would just drop inside the scripts folder)
Edit*: If you do want me to do it, i would need to know if you are currently using any vampire mods that modify the that script. If so, I would need that mod's version of the script.
According to UESP, the glitch happens when you try to feed on a NPC sleeping on a bed with items next to it (table, etc.). Simplest way to solve the issue is feed on beggars sleeping on the ground, I guess, or having a bed with nothing next to it.
Actually, by my testings trying to isolate the issue, this bug happens randomly even when you feed on standing people after charming them with the Seduction spell, and just about anywhere despite place, race or cloud district access or not.
I've noticed that it is rarer on a vanilla game but happens just as well(there are several threads about this issue on xbox/ps3 forums). If you want to try, grab a random person at the inn, where you'd get an instant bounty and have a bite. Sometimes it won't stuck you unless you get tagged with a crime during the feeding scene. Mods like Enhanced Blood Textures seem to have been related to this issue in the past but removing them proved useless in my case, and the Animations mod does cause a nearly 100% chance to stuck you, at least on my end - I've checked the comments section for that mod, and there are others players reporting it as well, sadly. Anyway, that mod author is taking a look at the issue.
Also @aharttsx I'd like to know where to paste those 2 lines of code you posted - if you don't mind getting me a copy of your PlayerVampireQuestScript source I'd be very obliged.
my playervampirequestscript is modded to all hell and will be different than what your script contains, though i have those two lines as the last two lines that run in the VampireFeed function (which im pretty sure still has the same name as the original function) - its the function that pretty much runs each time you feed.
Those 2 lines should fix the stuck problem, however, from my experiences there actually 2 somewhat similar bugs that tend to occur for me :
1.the stuck bug (which i think has to do with something entering combat with you during the feed animation, which seems to interfere with your controls being re-enabled after the feed)
and
2.sometimes randomly teleporting / not executing the feed animation properly on awake npcs which is an entirely separate issue that I don't think can ever be 100% fixed. i *think* the cause of this is with how npcs get registered for animation events, which may or may not also in turn be related to their AI packages - particularly seems to happen the most often with npcs that use furniture / crafting stations / mining spots /etc.
with the 2nd bug your char may also get stuck briefly, but that's because (from my understanding) its trying to register for the paired animation event with the target npc but something with the npc is preventing it from running properly - ive never become permanently stuck with this - at most i get stuck for a few seconds, the feed animation may be delayed, or simply not run at all, may teleport somewhere (usually end up by a chair/some other furniture, and/or have the screen wig out for a few secs.., but as i stated before, i don't think there's a way to squash the 2nd bug for good. You can usually tell which bug it is, as usually this one will occur the moment you try to feed on the npc, where as the 1st bug you tend not to notice until you try to move once the feed is done.
With that said, if you happen to get stuck with the 2nd bug and attempt to reload your save while you are stuck... Very weird and strange and mind-boggling things may happen lol (once had this happen in a dungeon, tried to reload a save while mid-stuck where i was shoved up into the ceiling with the screen spazzing out, the bug carried over to the reloaded save, but was able to walk over to the exit, i left the dungeon and it teleported me about 2000ft in the air (i don't really know, but really friggin high lol) , on the complete other side of the map, where i was stuck sneaking in place while it was telling me "You cannot go that way"
I feed on some girl in solitude she was wearing red dress I feed on her 3 times she died an lot of people stand around even guards. there is no timer on mine I hope they add timer on feeding. I am a Vampire it changes things alot.
i have miss this all the Years in Bugtesters Games....
Really !!!
I have test it, it Works Perfect ! Easy to Kill Bandits in Sleep :-) I Like it !
Another think i a Missing is Diablerie. Why can i not Feed from Vampires ? Like in Vamire 2 Bloodlines, the masquerade ? And come to more Powers in that Way.
Ah, neat! Now I feel like Vampire Seduction power is actually useful Go fight some bandits, save one bandit for the last, cast Vampire Seduction and kill him while feeding Killed the thirst AND a bandit. Nice! Thanks for the mod
p.s. oh hey, I only now realized that I'm using 2 other mods of yours. Followers relax at home and Dawnguard quest fix. So you deserve a couple more thanks from me
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-Dallesse
In creating this mod I did go over all of the vampire feeding script and it's literally just a call to play an animation. If the animation freezes in place, then it is most likely a problem with the animation file itself.
Game.SetPlayerAIDriven(False)
Game.EnablePlayerControls()
However comma, my script is modified to all hell, so if yer not using any vampire mods that modify that script i'd have to take a look at the vanilla script to see where it would go.
As far as the bug itself, My guess is that when you go to feed on npcs (ive only ever had it happen on awake npcs), the player character gets registered for an animation event in which the player gets controls disabled and set to run on AI, but something screws up and the event never completes and essentially get stuck waiting an event that cant complete.
Messing with files is a bit daunting, but I might just try skipping the designated cattle and go for the sleepers... see if that works for me. Besides, that's how we did it back in Cyrodiil anyway. I'm nostalgic like that
Sadly, I haven't found any legitimate bugfix... just suggestions to workarounds. Its a very strange bug. It doesn't seem to stick to one pattern; it grabs you in 3rd person sometimes, sometimes in 1st... sometimes lets you feed on standing cattle... sometimes doesn't let you feed on a sleeper in either mode. I will try the TAI console command. Thanks for that. I was curious to see if being a non-Volkihar vampire would make any difference, and to be honest- the worst of the problems seems to have come AFTER joining Serana. I will test my older saves and my post-Serana saves to see what messes up the least LOL. I am tempted to add the lines aharttsx suggested to the .ini file... but that would be a last resort. I do use 2 mods that alter vamps- Less Sunken Cheeks and Female Vamps Have Fangs.
Edit*: If you do want me to do it, i would need to know if you are currently using any vampire mods that modify the that script. If so, I would need that mod's version of the script.
I've noticed that it is rarer on a vanilla game but happens just as well(there are several threads about this issue on xbox/ps3 forums). If you want to try, grab a random person at the inn, where you'd get an instant bounty and have a bite. Sometimes it won't stuck you unless you get tagged with a crime during the feeding scene. Mods like Enhanced Blood Textures seem to have been related to this issue in the past but removing them proved useless in my case, and the Animations mod does cause a nearly 100% chance to stuck you, at least on my end - I've checked the comments section for that mod, and there are others players reporting it as well, sadly. Anyway, that mod author is taking a look at the issue.
Also @aharttsx I'd like to know where to paste those 2 lines of code you posted - if you don't mind getting me a copy of your PlayerVampireQuestScript source I'd be very obliged.
my playervampirequestscript is modded to all hell and will be different than what your script contains, though i have those two lines as the last two lines that run in the VampireFeed function (which im pretty sure still has the same name as the original function) - its the function that pretty much runs each time you feed.
Those 2 lines should fix the stuck problem, however, from my experiences there actually 2 somewhat similar bugs that tend to occur for me :
1.the stuck bug (which i think has to do with something entering combat with you during the feed animation, which seems to interfere with your controls being re-enabled after the feed)
and
2.sometimes randomly teleporting / not executing the feed animation properly on awake npcs which is an entirely separate issue that I don't think can ever be 100% fixed. i *think* the cause of this is with how npcs get registered for animation events, which may or may not also in turn be related to their AI packages - particularly seems to happen the most often with npcs that use furniture / crafting stations / mining spots /etc.
with the 2nd bug your char may also get stuck briefly, but that's because (from my understanding) its trying to register for the paired animation event with the target npc but something with the npc is preventing it from running properly - ive never become permanently stuck with this - at most i get stuck for a few seconds, the feed animation may be delayed, or simply not run at all, may teleport somewhere (usually end up by a chair/some other furniture, and/or have the screen wig out for a few secs.., but as i stated before, i don't think there's a way to squash the 2nd bug for good. You can usually tell which bug it is, as usually this one will occur the moment you try to feed on the npc, where as the 1st bug you tend not to notice until you try to move once the feed is done.
With that said, if you happen to get stuck with the 2nd bug and attempt to reload your save while you are stuck... Very weird and strange and mind-boggling things may happen lol (once had this happen in a dungeon, tried to reload a save while mid-stuck where i was shoved up into the ceiling with the screen spazzing out, the bug carried over to the reloaded save, but was able to walk over to the exit, i left the dungeon and it teleported me about 2000ft in the air (i don't really know, but really friggin high lol) , on the complete other side of the map, where i was stuck sneaking in place while it was telling me "You cannot go that way"
i have test it, Drinking 10-20 Times. Nothing
PLEASE Let them Die After 3 Drinking Attacks.
Really !!!
I have test it, it Works Perfect !
Easy to Kill Bandits in Sleep :-)
I Like it !
Another think i a Missing is Diablerie.
Why can i not Feed from Vampires ?
Like in Vamire 2 Bloodlines, the masquerade ?
And come to more Powers in that Way.
With this MOD :
Vampire - Make thrall Spell :
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/63912/?tab=1&navtag=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nexusmods.com%2Fskyrim%2Fajax%2Fmoddescription%2F%3Fid%3D63912%26preview%3D&pUp=1
it is Posibel to use it in Fight with Bandits, Dawngurads and so on.
Thats PERFECT to give a beautiful Dead , like the Vampieres Say :
"I Promise you a beautiful death"
"ich Verspreche Euch einen Schönen Tod"
:-)
http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/749243-player-gets-stuck-after-feeding-in-dawnguard/page-2
Thanks for the mod
p.s. oh hey, I only now realized that I'm using 2 other mods of yours. Followers relax at home and Dawnguard quest fix. So you deserve a couple more thanks from me