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Adds a Horsemanship skill into Skyrim along with its own perks and perk tree. Takes up one of the skill tree slots created by Skyrim Custom Skills main file or by Merged Thievery Skill.
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DESCRIPTION
This mod adds a Horsemanship (known as simply "Riding" in version 1.0) skill to Skyrim along with perks and its own perk tree. Although not technically dependant on it, this file requires the main SCS - Skyrim Custom Skills files to work. Please visit the Main files's page for details about the mod's mechanics and installation instructions.
As of version 2.0, there is also a Lockpicking version which uses the perk tree slot created by "Merged Thievery Skill" by LukeH. This version is "standalone" and does NOT need the main SCS file to work. Just download it and make sure it is loaded AFTER the Merged Thievery Skill mod in your load order.
ABOUT HORSEMANSHIP
I have always used Covenient Horses (CH) of course but there was one thing which always bothered me - I felt some of the features of CH are way too "convenient"! (:-D) It is good for a casual gameplay but it gets in the way if you want to play Skyrim with your realism, hardcore and immersion mods. Having all those powerful options without the need to actually work for them. And what better way is there than to advance your skill und unlock perks? So I created this SCS module to provide an alternative to CH on the one hand and to keep ip as compatible with CH as possible for those who want to use them both (myself included) on the other. More on that down below.
Unlike the previous versions of this mod which only gave combat benefits to the rider, the current version also affects the horses themselves in various ways. You can tell your horse to follow you or wait, train it to increase its stats based on your Horsemanship skill, craft, temper and enchant saddles and horse armors and more. Special thanks goes to sushisqui for allowing me to include perks from his Ridin Dirty mod which bring the skill to a higher level.
I also expanded the horse control options - you can now use MCM to bind keys to turn your horse around left and right on the spot (without falling from the cliff). It is not as smooth as I would like but it works and it's better than nothing.
INSTALL INSTRUCTIONS
Unless you want to use the Lockpicking slot version, you MUST update the main SCS files to version 2.1 or bad things will happen.
This mod incorporates horse equipment from Horse Armors for Skyrim by mystikhybrid, Sethai and Elthrai Horse Armor by gechbal and More Saddles by Laup26. Those authors' resources are NOT part of the main packages because if you are using Convenient Horses, all the necessary files are already included in CH's bsa files so you do not need to worry about it.
If you are not using CH, you need to download the resources from the optional section of this mod's downloads. It contains meshes and textures from Horse Armors and Sethai and Elthrai Armors. Resources from More Saddles are not included because the author haven't yet answered whether I can upload the resources here but it's not really an issue because you can download the files from the original mod's page. Just head on here, download the main file and install it (you don't have to activat the esp file, the resources will suffice), then download "Saddle Compilation - Convenient Horses Saddle Replacer" from the optional section and install it over the main file. (This is needed for the dawnguard saddle.) Now you should be all set.
IMPORTANT UPDATE NOTE
This SCS module was completely reworked for version 2.0 and is entirely incompatible with all previous versions. If you want to update, make sure you have no Riding perks or get rid of them if you do. (Setting it legendary - possibly after setting it to 100 via console - is an easy way to do it.) Then just dismount horse and wait 2 REAL-TIME minutes. After that save the game, quit Skyrim, uninstall the old version, load the game, save and quit again, install the new version and finally play.
COMPATIBILITY WITH CONVENIENT HORSES
SCS-Horsemanship is semi-compatible with CH - it will detect whether it is loaded alongside CH on the first startup and asjust some of its own settings and some of CH's setting to more compatible values (you can then set them back if you know what you're doing). As both mods are trying to do the same things they will clash sometimes, although more often you will simply have doubled options - one given by Horsemanship, the other by CH. Since there would be little reason to use this mod otherwise, I made it so that SCS has priority over CH where possible. Let's go through some of individual features:
- You should always use Horsemanship to toggle horse's follow/wait behavior. If the horse is following you via CH commands, tell it to wait via CH and then only use Horsemanship hotkeys.
- Combat behavior (Agressive/Foolhardy - Passive/Cowardly) will be effectively merged. Both options should work but again - you should use the Horsemanship one over the CH one (since it is Horsemanship that manages the compatibility - better safe than sorry).
- You should NEVER try to equip armor to your horses via the CH MCM menu.
- Horseback talk is totally different for both mods; you can use whichever one you prefer or both.
- CH horse charge should not be used but nothing bad - other than making the Trample perk somewhat pointless - will happen if it is.
- As for horse inventory: CH uses an "external" container while Horsemanship trades items directly with your horse. They can work alengside each other just fine so use whichever one you like.
- You should NOT use CH stat/speed buffs for horses.
- Autoloot and Horses for followers will have no issues whatsoever.
- There is an optional file called "SCS-Horsemandhip_CH_Patch.esp" in the optional section. Use it if you want to disable the CH faction relationship changes - horses will keep their default relationships. (Don't worry that CH will still give you notifications about relationships being updated and so on, it won't have any effect.) It also disables CH dialogues so no more whistling and buying CH horns.
There will still likely be some issues so feel free to post them in the comments. ;)
PERKS
Saddler
Requires: Horsemanship 0
While mounted, press Sneak to access your horse's inventory, manage its equipment, set its combat behavior and train it. Also unlocks special bonuses that you temporarily receive upon dismounting a horse with a specific saddle.
High Ground
Requires: Horsemanship 30/60/90
While mounted, you take 25%/50%/75% less damage.
Closeness
Requires: Horsemanship 70, High Ground
Being close to your horse pays off in the cold mountains. While mounted, your frost resistance is increased by 50%.
Trample
Requires: Horsemanship 90, Closeness OR Blackguard
While mounted, you are invisible.
Blackguard
Requires: Horsemanship 100, Chivalry OR Trample
Weak enemies are immediately killed when you ride near them.
Herald
Requires: Horsemanship 20, Saddler
While mounted, you can use the Shout button to start dialogues with people.
Note: You can draw your ranged weapon and then press the Shout button to aim the projectile which initiates dialogue at someone.
Jockey
Requires: Horsemanship 35, Herald
Your mount moves 30% faster and has doubled stamina regeneration.
Chivalry
Requires: Horsemanship 60, Jockey
Allies are rallied and gain 50 health and stamina when you ride near them.
Horse-Smith
Requires: Horsemanship 40, Herald
You can craft and temper horse armor as long as you have the necessary material perks.
Horn Call
Requires: Horsemanship 65, Horse-Smith
You can use horns to call your horse from great distances.
General
Requires: Horsemanship 90, Horn Call OR Rider's Path
While mounted, you gain 100 health and stamina.
Rider's Path
Requires: Horsemanship 70, Horse Archer OR General
While mounted, you see the road you need to take before your mount's feet.
Horseman
Requires: Horsemanship 30/60/90, Saddler
Mounted attacks cause 30%/60%/90% more damage.
Horse Archer
Requires: Horsemanship 70, Mounted Shooter
While mounted, you see the road you need to take before your mount's feet.
CREDITS
Bethesda - for Skyrim and Creation Kit!
The TES5Edit team - for TES5Edit, most of SCS was created with this sweet tool!
Mator - for Automation Tools for TES5Edit, I could never have worked with skill trees the way I did without the script provided there!
sushisquid - for allowimng me to incorporate perks from the Ridin Dirty mod into Horsemanship
Mystikhybrid - for Horse Armors for Skyrim
gechbal - for Elthrai & Sethai Horse Armors
This mod adds a Horsemanship (known as simply "Riding" in version 1.0) skill to Skyrim along with perks and its own perk tree. Although not technically dependant on it, this file requires the main SCS - Skyrim Custom Skills files to work. Please visit the Main files's page for details about the mod's mechanics and installation instructions.
As of version 2.0, there is also a Lockpicking version which uses the perk tree slot created by "Merged Thievery Skill" by LukeH. This version is "standalone" and does NOT need the main SCS file to work. Just download it and make sure it is loaded AFTER the Merged Thievery Skill mod in your load order.
ABOUT HORSEMANSHIP
I have always used Covenient Horses (CH) of course but there was one thing which always bothered me - I felt some of the features of CH are way too "convenient"! (:-D) It is good for a casual gameplay but it gets in the way if you want to play Skyrim with your realism, hardcore and immersion mods. Having all those powerful options without the need to actually work for them. And what better way is there than to advance your skill und unlock perks? So I created this SCS module to provide an alternative to CH on the one hand and to keep ip as compatible with CH as possible for those who want to use them both (myself included) on the other. More on that down below.
Unlike the previous versions of this mod which only gave combat benefits to the rider, the current version also affects the horses themselves in various ways. You can tell your horse to follow you or wait, train it to increase its stats based on your Horsemanship skill, craft, temper and enchant saddles and horse armors and more. Special thanks goes to sushisqui for allowing me to include perks from his Ridin Dirty mod which bring the skill to a higher level.
I also expanded the horse control options - you can now use MCM to bind keys to turn your horse around left and right on the spot (without falling from the cliff). It is not as smooth as I would like but it works and it's better than nothing.
INSTALL INSTRUCTIONS
Unless you want to use the Lockpicking slot version, you MUST update the main SCS files to version 2.1 or bad things will happen.
This mod incorporates horse equipment from Horse Armors for Skyrim by mystikhybrid, Sethai and Elthrai Horse Armor by gechbal and More Saddles by Laup26. Those authors' resources are NOT part of the main packages because if you are using Convenient Horses, all the necessary files are already included in CH's bsa files so you do not need to worry about it.
If you are not using CH, you need to download the resources from the optional section of this mod's downloads. It contains meshes and textures from Horse Armors and Sethai and Elthrai Armors. Resources from More Saddles are not included because the author haven't yet answered whether I can upload the resources here but it's not really an issue because you can download the files from the original mod's page. Just head on here, download the main file and install it (you don't have to activat the esp file, the resources will suffice), then download "Saddle Compilation - Convenient Horses Saddle Replacer" from the optional section and install it over the main file. (This is needed for the dawnguard saddle.) Now you should be all set.
IMPORTANT UPDATE NOTE
This SCS module was completely reworked for version 2.0 and is entirely incompatible with all previous versions. If you want to update, make sure you have no Riding perks or get rid of them if you do. (Setting it legendary - possibly after setting it to 100 via console - is an easy way to do it.) Then just dismount horse and wait 2 REAL-TIME minutes. After that save the game, quit Skyrim, uninstall the old version, load the game, save and quit again, install the new version and finally play.
COMPATIBILITY WITH CONVENIENT HORSES
SCS-Horsemanship is semi-compatible with CH - it will detect whether it is loaded alongside CH on the first startup and asjust some of its own settings and some of CH's setting to more compatible values (you can then set them back if you know what you're doing). As both mods are trying to do the same things they will clash sometimes, although more often you will simply have doubled options - one given by Horsemanship, the other by CH. Since there would be little reason to use this mod otherwise, I made it so that SCS has priority over CH where possible. Let's go through some of individual features:
- You should always use Horsemanship to toggle horse's follow/wait behavior. If the horse is following you via CH commands, tell it to wait via CH and then only use Horsemanship hotkeys.
- Combat behavior (Agressive/Foolhardy - Passive/Cowardly) will be effectively merged. Both options should work but again - you should use the Horsemanship one over the CH one (since it is Horsemanship that manages the compatibility - better safe than sorry).
- You should NEVER try to equip armor to your horses via the CH MCM menu.
- Horseback talk is totally different for both mods; you can use whichever one you prefer or both.
- CH horse charge should not be used but nothing bad - other than making the Trample perk somewhat pointless - will happen if it is.
- As for horse inventory: CH uses an "external" container while Horsemanship trades items directly with your horse. They can work alengside each other just fine so use whichever one you like.
- You should NOT use CH stat/speed buffs for horses.
- Autoloot and Horses for followers will have no issues whatsoever.
- There is an optional file called "SCS-Horsemandhip_CH_Patch.esp" in the optional section. Use it if you want to disable the CH faction relationship changes - horses will keep their default relationships. (Don't worry that CH will still give you notifications about relationships being updated and so on, it won't have any effect.) It also disables CH dialogues so no more whistling and buying CH horns.
There will still likely be some issues so feel free to post them in the comments. ;)
PERKS
Saddler
Requires: Horsemanship 0
While mounted, press Sneak to access your horse's inventory, manage its equipment, set its combat behavior and train it. Also unlocks special bonuses that you temporarily receive upon dismounting a horse with a specific saddle.
High Ground
Requires: Horsemanship 30/60/90
While mounted, you take 25%/50%/75% less damage.
Closeness
Requires: Horsemanship 70, High Ground
Being close to your horse pays off in the cold mountains. While mounted, your frost resistance is increased by 50%.
Trample
Requires: Horsemanship 90, Closeness OR Blackguard
While mounted, you are invisible.
Blackguard
Requires: Horsemanship 100, Chivalry OR Trample
Weak enemies are immediately killed when you ride near them.
Herald
Requires: Horsemanship 20, Saddler
While mounted, you can use the Shout button to start dialogues with people.
Note: You can draw your ranged weapon and then press the Shout button to aim the projectile which initiates dialogue at someone.
Jockey
Requires: Horsemanship 35, Herald
Your mount moves 30% faster and has doubled stamina regeneration.
Chivalry
Requires: Horsemanship 60, Jockey
Allies are rallied and gain 50 health and stamina when you ride near them.
Horse-Smith
Requires: Horsemanship 40, Herald
You can craft and temper horse armor as long as you have the necessary material perks.
Horn Call
Requires: Horsemanship 65, Horse-Smith
You can use horns to call your horse from great distances.
General
Requires: Horsemanship 90, Horn Call OR Rider's Path
While mounted, you gain 100 health and stamina.
Rider's Path
Requires: Horsemanship 70, Horse Archer OR General
While mounted, you see the road you need to take before your mount's feet.
Horseman
Requires: Horsemanship 30/60/90, Saddler
Mounted attacks cause 30%/60%/90% more damage.
Horse Archer
Requires: Horsemanship 70, Mounted Shooter
While mounted, you see the road you need to take before your mount's feet.
CREDITS
Bethesda - for Skyrim and Creation Kit!
The TES5Edit team - for TES5Edit, most of SCS was created with this sweet tool!
Mator - for Automation Tools for TES5Edit, I could never have worked with skill trees the way I did without the script provided there!
sushisquid - for allowimng me to incorporate perks from the Ridin Dirty mod into Horsemanship
Mystikhybrid - for Horse Armors for Skyrim
gechbal - for Elthrai & Sethai Horse Armors