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Once more it has been some time since she was seen without her Bandage/Blindfold .. I think she doesn't like the Blue Palace .. or it's inhabitants .. who knows .. ;)

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  1. wadelycan
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    Don't be stealing Sybille Stentor's food supply....err....place in the hierarchy
    1. Anataron
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      I doubt Kyn would want to meddle with her - not only due to her being a Vamp; but a Mage on top - and lets just say Kyn and Mages are not on a good footing to begin with Thank you for your comment
  2. wolfgrimdark
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    Can't say I blame her - filled with puppets and puppeteers. Wonder what she makes of the vampire that lives there.
    1. Anataron
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      True words; but I guess at some Point she will have to leave the shadows and enter there aswell; being Dragonborn and all that .. I doubt even the Dragonborn could get away with a rejection should the Jarl of Solitude or any in the Court there request the presence of said Dragonborn; so the two Vampires might meet eventually - not sure yet what Kyn will think of her; most likely indifference; second Option I assume would be somewhat friendly towards her; after all a second Vampire that; on the surface; fight the bloodlust and tries to adapt to "normal life" despite being such ..
    2. wolfgrimdark
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      Nataly suggested she could be a true daughter as well.
    3. Anataron
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      Well; it would explain why she is less hostile; and seems to not be driven by any Kind of Bloodlust - so I could see that; however - what makes it "doubtable"; for me at least .. Harkon; so Close to Solitude for all those years; and not once trying to bring her under his Control for the Prophecy?

      After all - both Valerica and Serana were hidden away for that very purpose - to Keep them as far from his reach as possible; one even in a pocket of oblivion; the other in a hidden Stone sarcophagus in a forgotten cave .. for centuries or longer; after all Serana has no Memory of there even being an Empire with seat in Cyrodiil .. so from that perspective I honestly doubt it; as I don't see it beyond Harkon to go after Solitude and he makes no attempts whatsoever ..

      Since her sidequest revolves around killing Vampires "Close" to Castle Volkihar; given Vanilla Quest; but still - it does suggest she is Aware of Vampire Activity in that Part of the Woods; which in turn would suggest the Vampires in the Area are Aware of her -> Harkon would be Aware -> and in my mind would attempt gaining control over her; if necessary with anything he has at his disposal ..

      Edit: what I could see on the other Hand is her being a "covert ops" Agent for Harkon - a pure blooded; turned by Harkon; which would suggest more control aswell; but not make her "vital" to the Prophecy he is after; so much so that he shattered his own Family over it ..
    4. wolfgrimdark
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      Or perhaps there is more to the true daughters than we know. For example she could be TD from another vampire clan. There is the possibility Harkon does not know about her considering all the effort she has gone though to keep herself hidden. A vampire of her power could most likely easily detect lesser vampires while keeping herself hidden in some manner. Or at the very least her TD status. Just a thought.
    5. Anataron
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      But has she really gone through that much effort? I think if you are Vampire (unconfirmed; has been a while) she recognizes that - and her eyes give her away on the first glance; on top of that she doesn't seem to Limit her magical potential as that highelf down in the entry hall refers to her as much more powerful than he had expected; even for a Breton - which suggests she is regularly tapping into vampiric powers in her use of Magic.

      Now; as I see it; the clan isn't really relevant for Daughters as in theory all of them are Clan Matrons - their blood Comes directly from Molag; so whatever clan they might have belonged to previously (as in kyns case) is irrelevant - they are now daughters, nothing else; as they don't have any other "Ancestors" in their particular bloodline apart from Molag himself.

      I do assume that with some Training they might be able to hide most of their Daughter Abilities ; but than I do assume Molag himself would always be able to track them down; at least in such a Situation where she is living in the "open" - which could be seen as another way Harkon could have found her; as I assume Molag is in favor of what Harkon wants as a true Vampire rule over skyrim/tamriel would make him more powerful aswell and therefore might have given Harkon the "last Chance" hint that she is hiding there.

      So I still doubt that she is a Daughter - I would say possibly Pure Blooded (much like the Player is pure blooded when joining the Vampires in DG) but not Daughter - at least not in my mind. Of course I could be wrong there; but those are my thoughts - I find it highly unlikely that she would have been able to avoid detection for so Long; when even Valerica and Serana; argueably two of the strongest Daughters known choose hiding as far away/protected as possible instead of Standing their ground together ..
    6. wolfgrimdark
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      Perhaps - or perhaps they hid as they are wife and daughter to Harkon making it easier for him to find them in the sense he knows their habits. Or even still has some form of blood tie.

      Also I do not think Molag cares in the least bit about Harkon and his plans. Harkon's plans are both good and bad for vampires after all.

      Molag certainly makes no attempt to stop Valerica or Serana from stopping Harkon after all.

      I also think that vampire at the BP is a very powerful mage as well. Also very long lived. One might think she could have found a spell or artifact that could help hide her.
    7. Anataron
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      Possibly - but for me it just doesn't add up - as somebody who has almost exclusively played the Vampire Side of Dawnguard I think it is more likely that she is either a "Basic" Vampire that over time learned to control herself enough to fight her bloodlust completely; to life normally among the People .. or somehow related to the Volkihar as a sort of Informant; or neutral Party - but a Daughter .. I just doubt it - it doesn't add up for me - to many things that feel like it would be to dangerous for her to be in Solitude; and too likely for Harkon to a) know about her and b) just take her for the prophecy. After all; Harkon himself is a powerful pureblood aswell - so if Ulfric can walk in there; kill the high king and escape .. I dare say Harkon could easily enter at night; take the Court Mage with force and escape before even being noticed; or if noticed just killing the few guards that would have a quick enough Response time to enter the fray unprepared.

      Or even ambush her on the Road; as her own dialogue suggests that she wasn't present when Ulfric killed the High King; which does suggest she leaves Solitude from time to time - during one of those it would be quite easy for Harkon/'s Court to take her by force .. in my opinion.

      Edit: something else coming to mind; which could (very loosely) be seen as a Connection - the Vampire in Morthal - Alva - seems to be in control enough to fool the whole town aswell - which suggests to me that "any" Vampire can control their bloodlust in a way; if possibly only for a limited period of time - so I think it is not necessary that the Court Mage is anything apart from an old "normal" Vampire - as she doesn't specificly states what she has done while being away during the High Kings murder - she could very well have been feeding to "buy" more time in "disguse" as a docile Vampire ..

      And I disagree - I think Molag cares about it; but doesn't intervene - after all; his own "morals" are the "strong survive and can do what they want; the weak are punished for their weakness" - overly simplified; but that is what it boils down to - so why would he intervene when the "stronger" serana/valerica/Player Combo defeats Harkon .. he wouldn't. But I think he would like to see Harkon succeed - as it could potentially mean that all the vampires; even the non Volkihar ones; could walk the world at day - meaning coming out of their Caves and spreading - and in such a Event I personally think the Response time of the "humans" would be too slow; I think.

      take for example my CW Status in Kyn's Story- most of the map is Imperial control; only eastmarch is Stormcloak - now; that means Stormcloak Forces are mostly focused in Eastmarch; apart from small hidden segments - Imperial Forces; apart from the "lowest necessary" garrison will be focused at the borders of Eastmarch to Keep the Stormcloaks there .. now; if in such an Event the Vampires from the Cave Close to Morthal would come out and attack the Town openly; with not having to worry about the day .. Morthal would most likely fall before any Forces would reach it; if word of it would even reach the outside world .. and that might be the case for many Settlements .. Rorikstead being another example with two Vampire Den's "Close by" .. and if the vampires don't turn the People living there; but kill them .. they still can use them as undead thralls - which means a few Settlements that fall quickly mean exponential growth in fighting force for the Vampires ..

      which; in my mind means the Response that might eventually be mounted will face a somewhat organized and not to small fighting force ready to take them on. After all; vampires might be evil; they might be even driven to the brink of madness by their Bloodlust - but they are still thinking beings which means they can contain a Basic Level of organization; which means with undead "soldiers" they have more than enough means to oppose a war torn Skyrim; possibly even the other provinces with time..

      which in turns means; all vampires that exist have a reasonable Chance to prove they are stronger; and therefore a reasonable Chance to increase Molag's Influence on Skyrim/Tamriel .. which in turn means .. he won't openly Support Harkon; as that would go against his "power to the strong; punishment to the weak" morals - but he would like to see him succeed; and therefore might even be willing to grant that "last Chance" hint - more or less: f*#@ this up and I will crush you ;get her and I will reward you Kind of deal ..

      To add to that; during the end parts of the Vampire Side Quests; you are asked to turn some People into Vampires as spies and Hideout keepers throughout Skyrim .. if my Memory serves me; and I might be wrong there; that Person in Solitude is the Maid in the BP; can't recall the Name .. the one that always dreams about traveling with you ..and that can grant you acess to the Pelagius Wing .. which in turn would suggest that Harkon's Court (can't recall who gives the quest atm) is Aware that somewhere in the BP there is already Vampire Presence tolerated - or else that would be way too risky..

      Of course all of this are only my personal thoughts on the Matter; but for me it is just unlikely that she is a daughter ..
    8. wolfgrimdark
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      Well you know vampires better than I do that is for sure. But I also know from out talks that you place them different from the lore in the game, which is what I am going by. You have a stricter definition (which, BTW I love) but that may be influencing your view point.

      Unlike the Imperial vs Stormcloak debate, which you convinced me to stay with the Imperials, I remain very much unconvinced here I am afraid. To me it seems reasonable that she could remain hidden or known as a vampire but not known as a TB and hence of no interest to Harkon - who doesn't seem to get out and about much anyhow.

      Also there is the point a few folks make in-game that if the sun goes out everything dies - and then no food for the vampires. I think Valerica points out a few other problems with Harkon's plan in general. No vampires need food and work best in the shadows. In an all out war against the vampires they are outnumbered ... although that on its own is not enough as they can turn people. There is still the balance of food. Yet I suspect other powerful forces might intervene should the sun go out ... hard to say.

      Granted Molag may be perfectly find with everyone on Nirn dead and he can turn it into another cold harbour. yet I remain unconvinced that he is really on Harkons side in this.
    9. wolfgrimdark
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      PS - To anyone else reading this I am just giving Alex a hard time He and I both know who the resident vampire expert is around here and it certainly isn't me :-)
    10. Anataron
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      I think; given the "lacking" Backstory of her it is hard to determine what she is; but the "Food" Problem isn't existent for Harkon at least; as he himself calls Vampires that feed "weak" and " Default lore" vampires (Skyrim/Volkihar clan) grow stronger without blood instead of weaker - their only weakness without blood is an increased weakness to sunlight - which would be gone without the sun.

      So I say Food isn't a Problem; it is a strength for them (at least for the Volkihar/Skyrim strains of Vampirism - as they would be at their strongest without Blood; and the removal of Food over time would make their Fight against the non-Vampires easier - their human enemies would run out of ressources while they only would grow stronger..) And the other Vampire Clans that Need blood would weaken aswell; meaning Volkihar/Skyrim Vamps would be the strongest Clans around and therefore could; if needed; take over.

      To add to the Food Thing - the Falmer; technically speaking; are Elves that mutated over time and through poison as far as I know - and can survive in total darkness without sunlight from their Chaurus and Mushroom - so I say Vamps could adapt; feeding from them instead of Surface Dwellers - which would render the Food Argument completely invalid - as Falmer Blood is "digestable" for Vamps; as far as I'm Aware.

      So all in all I think Molag has "possibly" good will for Harkon's Goals as Harkon would not only have a shot at proving that Vampires are Stronger; but even that the Volkihar Clan / Skyrim Vamps in particular are the strongest - and any Kind of Domination in that manner I see as "pleasing" for Molag .. But concerning the Court Mage of Solitude I think both is possible; I just find it very unlikely that a Daughter could hide herself in such a Situation and closeness to Castle Volkihar for so Long; especially in her "clumsy" Approach to it - not wearing a mask or closed helmet/Hood - not hiding her full magical potential from other mages in the area; even going so far that a High Elf notices her exceptional Talent and thinks she is way above Breton Levels.

      Than again; Valerica basically is hiding right inside Castle Volkihar .. technically speaking; as the Portal is inside the Castle... so there could be a Point made for it ..

      In any Event; I think this one has far too many variables to come to a "100% conclusion" - I personally think it could very well be possible; but I see it as rather to very unlikely that she is a daughter
  3. hostorm
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    ooo the portrait and the music goes so well together
    1. Anataron
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      Thank you very much; glad you like the both together!
  4. ClipsyMoon
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    nice job and ...music...is epic...
    1. Anataron
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      Thank you kindly; glad you did like both Image aswell as Music!
    2. ClipsyMoon
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      I'm still listening.................
  5. Liadys
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    Stunning shot ! Oohh Dear Kynthia doesn't look very happy to be there !
    1. Anataron
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      Thank you; glad you do like the shot - well; I think you are right; she isn't happy - after all being in Solitude does remind her of the Time with the Legion; and with what she knows about (given; my take) Tullius and his shady buisness with Ulfric aswell as the attempted Murder of her Brother can't be good for her mood. And theoretically she could run into Hadvar there; as he is the new second in command of Tullius - so another reason that might influence her mood in Solitude ..